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I know you don’t like learning things but not all gender-affirming care is surgery/hormone therapy. Though one surgery that is gender affirming care is literally boob jobs for cis women (I’m guessing you aren’t hoping to ban that too) For pretty much all kids it’s literally just talking to a therapist about their issues; something you should consider doing!
Aren’t these the types that ramble on about “parental rights” too? If the child, parent/s, and doctor all agree then what’s the fuss? I know they don’t actually give a shit but their hypocrisy is exhausting. Not to mention we’re talking about a very, very small minority of children getting gender affirming surgery. If it were a genuine problem (it isn’t) I’d say we have much more important matters to address than a few teenagers getting implants
Cisgender kids have been put on puberty blockers to treat disorders like precocious puberty for decades. We know the long term effects of the these drugs and they are minimal. Surgery is only an option for 16 year olds at the youngest and that’s only with the consent of both parents. All this outrage about “saving the children” is BS that is only manufactured to draw the uninformed over to the bigots cause. Every major medical association in the US and Europe has proven time and again that gender affirming care saves lives. Whether you’re just ignorant or a willfully hateful bigot I don’t know, but taking time to learn the actual facts of the matter would probably be a good idea.
No, it means you don’t go through puberty then. Cisgendered kids are given them for condition like precocial puberty, and they go through it just fine when they’re no longer on the blockers.
You’d understand these things if you bothered to examine any of this topic beyond shouting, “TRANS BAD!”
There wouldn’t be much point in giving them to people who’ve finished going through puberty. Speaking of points, I know you think you have one here, but it’s not very good.
Lol no, you haven’t. Because if you had you’d know that kids getting actual irreversible gender surgery are a vast minority of trans kids, yet Fox news acts and preaches that they’re somehow the vast majority. Most left leaning people (myself included) are also hesitant to against having someone under the age of 18 go through irreversible surgery.
Which you completely ignored because you only regurgitated what your talking points told you to. When really most of us simply want people to live freely, how they want to, without the government telling them what they can or can’t do. If a kid wants to wear a dress who cares? If a girl decides she would rather wear jeans and a tshirt and get a buzz cut literally who cares. That therapy around gender issues should be accessible to everyone, that’s the actual issue.
But keep listening to Fox news who tells you that we’re coming after kids with a scalpel while burning a bible. Seriously, read some other sources.
how many of these under 18 gets are getting surgery? I’ve never seen any stats on that. Probably because they don’t exist.
Best I can do is find some numbers about puberty blocker treatment, which is 17K kids over 5 years, so 3,000 kids a year are on these blockers, out of a population of 74 million.
There are definitely trans kids getting surgeries, it’s just in the hundreds value rather than thousands. 238 in 2019, 256 in 2020, and 282 in 2021 had top surgery.
Between 2000 and 2005, 72% of gender confirmation surgeries were bottom surgeries; from 2006 to 2011, that number increased to 84%. And the number of patients insured by Medicare or Medicaid seeking these procedures increased threefold between 2012-2013 and 2014.
Wait until you find out that they give children with cancer literal poison. It’s called chemotherapy. Let me know if you would like me to decide if your child can consent to chemotherapy. I’ll be happy to step in and make that decision for you.
I know of children that are alive right now because of chemotherapy its actually really easy to research and is in many cases the only option or death, I dont think supplements cure cancer.
You know full well that they can’t have surgery until 18, you’re just spreading deliberate misinformation. It’s pathetically transparent that you are just straight up lying.
So no mutilation is happening to children, as proven by these sources. I hope you plan to go and edit out the blatant misinformation in your original post.
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I went to high school with girls who got nose jobs. No one talked about them being mutilated.
I’d also like to know if you feel the same way about circumcision.
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And yet no one is accusing teenage girls who get nose jobs of mutilating themselves. Except maybe you. But you’d be a big exception.
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Good, you should start your own movement deploring that too.
You of all people should watch it.
I know you don’t like learning things but not all gender-affirming care is surgery/hormone therapy. Though one surgery that is gender affirming care is literally boob jobs for cis women (I’m guessing you aren’t hoping to ban that too) For pretty much all kids it’s literally just talking to a therapist about their issues; something you should consider doing!
Aren’t these the types that ramble on about “parental rights” too? If the child, parent/s, and doctor all agree then what’s the fuss? I know they don’t actually give a shit but their hypocrisy is exhausting. Not to mention we’re talking about a very, very small minority of children getting gender affirming surgery. If it were a genuine problem (it isn’t) I’d say we have much more important matters to address than a few teenagers getting implants
Tell me you only listen to one side without telling me
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No, you really haven’t. Nobody is “mutilating” trans kids, and it’s because those kids can’t give consent.
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Dude, read other sources. First you started with “Mutilating kids” and now you’re just mad at puberty blockers.
Get out of here with your ignorant, transphobic, uneducated replies.
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No, they really don’t.
You don’t even know what puberty blockers are, do you? You just know the made up claims conservative morons have been saying about them.
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Cisgender kids have been put on puberty blockers to treat disorders like precocious puberty for decades. We know the long term effects of the these drugs and they are minimal. Surgery is only an option for 16 year olds at the youngest and that’s only with the consent of both parents. All this outrage about “saving the children” is BS that is only manufactured to draw the uninformed over to the bigots cause. Every major medical association in the US and Europe has proven time and again that gender affirming care saves lives. Whether you’re just ignorant or a willfully hateful bigot I don’t know, but taking time to learn the actual facts of the matter would probably be a good idea.
maybe read up a bit about puberty blockers and their reversibility
You realize that when someone stops taking puberty blockers that stops blocking puberty, right?
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There are girls starting puberty at 7 and others at 14, very specific time as you say…
Name that time. Go on. Please.
Call everyone who doesn’t fit your make-believe timeline broken somehow.
No, it means you don’t go through puberty then. Cisgendered kids are given them for condition like precocial puberty, and they go through it just fine when they’re no longer on the blockers.
You’d understand these things if you bothered to examine any of this topic beyond shouting, “TRANS BAD!”
Yeah, we should just wait until after they suicide.
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And then their therapist will recommend gender affirming care, which may include puberty blockers :)
Not every therapist, and those that do are awful.
Therapy is there to help you live with who you are, not to convince you you are someone you aren’t.
There wouldn’t be much point in giving them to people who’ve finished going through puberty. Speaking of points, I know you think you have one here, but it’s not very good.
Lol no, you haven’t. Because if you had you’d know that kids getting actual irreversible gender surgery are a vast minority of trans kids, yet Fox news acts and preaches that they’re somehow the vast majority. Most left leaning people (myself included) are also hesitant to against having someone under the age of 18 go through irreversible surgery.
Which you completely ignored because you only regurgitated what your talking points told you to. When really most of us simply want people to live freely, how they want to, without the government telling them what they can or can’t do. If a kid wants to wear a dress who cares? If a girl decides she would rather wear jeans and a tshirt and get a buzz cut literally who cares. That therapy around gender issues should be accessible to everyone, that’s the actual issue.
But keep listening to Fox news who tells you that we’re coming after kids with a scalpel while burning a bible. Seriously, read some other sources.
how many of these under 18 gets are getting surgery? I’ve never seen any stats on that. Probably because they don’t exist.
Best I can do is find some numbers about puberty blocker treatment, which is 17K kids over 5 years, so 3,000 kids a year are on these blockers, out of a population of 74 million.
There are definitely trans kids getting surgeries, it’s just in the hundreds value rather than thousands. 238 in 2019, 256 in 2020, and 282 in 2021 had top surgery.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-data/
https://journalistsresource.org/politics-and-government/gender-confirmation-surgery-transgender-youth-research/
The stats exist, people just don’t care enough to look for them.
It didn’t take long for the bigots to show up, lol
It took 3 minutes, apparently.
You know what, your side doesn’t get to talk about mutilating kids until you get your collective head out of your collective ass about guns.
Kids are actually being mutilated by those.
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Thats an unhealthy obsession regardless of your made up ‘reasons’ lmao, as if you’re excused somehow…
Wait until you find out that they give children with cancer literal poison. It’s called chemotherapy. Let me know if you would like me to decide if your child can consent to chemotherapy. I’ll be happy to step in and make that decision for you.
I know of children that are alive right now because of chemotherapy its actually really easy to research and is in many cases the only option or death, I dont think supplements cure cancer.
And not letting kids live with the gender they feel they are leads to some of them committing suicide, so, how about we save them too?
You know full well that they can’t have surgery until 18, you’re just spreading deliberate misinformation. It’s pathetically transparent that you are just straight up lying.
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Did you even bother to read your own source?
“Jay Langadinos, now 31, was just 19 when she first met Dr. Patrick Toohey, a veteran Sydney psychiatrist, in May 2010.”
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So no mutilation is happening to children, as proven by these sources. I hope you plan to go and edit out the blatant misinformation in your original post.
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Your definition of mutilation is driven by bigotry, not facts.
Go back to Reddit.