Fair, but I just meant “Why are we still fighting the same battles for social justice and cultural progress as they were fighting 50 years ago, 1000 years ago, and 2000 years ago?”
Because evil happens -> people stop the evil -> people are happy for while -> people start forgetting about how bad it was -> evil starts happening again
Those that don’t know history are doomed to repeat it
I think that’s pretty dismissive of the real problem. The real problem is that we (humanity) have a large portion of our population actively working to promote regressive and/or outright oppressive ideologies.
I don’t think that last sentence paints the full picture, despite being catchy.
More often, things turn bad for a slew of different reasons.
Let’s take the situation of abortion rights as an example. The people that have advocated for the end of all abortions in the US never believed abortion brought anything positive. It’s not about history being forgotten, it’s about a conflict between two groups of people having different opinions, and one imposing their belief on the other group.
I’m not saying this to sound smart. But identifying the proper reasons explaining a bad societal change helps determine where to target counter-actions.
That’s besides the point. Your original formulation lets people think that everybody believed that abortion rights were a good thing at some point in history. Which is false.
The christofascists were always salty about their defeat. They waited until they were powerful enough to strike back, using mechanisms that are too complex to detail here.
While education is part of the retaliation against christofascism (and not just history education), Americans will need more than history books to fight back. This is far too simplistic.
Knowing who the enemy is - and there are identifiable enemies in this case - is crucial. And I think the saying you mentioned in your first comment is a bit of a thought-terminating cliché.
Strange women laying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government
Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony
You can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart lobbed a sword at you.
Why are so many absurd Money Python bits edit: about social justice issues set in the Middle Ages or Bronze Age Middle East still so relevant in 2024?
The middle aged are the foundation of our modern culture and societies. At least ones we have very good records of.
Fair, but I just meant “Why are we still fighting the same battles for social justice and cultural progress as they were fighting 50 years ago, 1000 years ago, and 2000 years ago?”
Because evil happens -> people stop the evil -> people are happy for while -> people start forgetting about how bad it was -> evil starts happening again
Those that don’t know history are doomed to repeat it
I think that’s pretty dismissive of the real problem. The real problem is that we (humanity) have a large portion of our population actively working to promote regressive and/or outright oppressive ideologies.
Because, IMHO, people forgot how bad those regressive tendencies since its been too good for too long unfortunately
I don’t think that last sentence paints the full picture, despite being catchy.
More often, things turn bad for a slew of different reasons.
Let’s take the situation of abortion rights as an example. The people that have advocated for the end of all abortions in the US never believed abortion brought anything positive. It’s not about history being forgotten, it’s about a conflict between two groups of people having different opinions, and one imposing their belief on the other group.
I’m not saying this to sound smart. But identifying the proper reasons explaining a bad societal change helps determine where to target counter-actions.
And how are those people getting more and more people on their side? Not teaching history.
Book bannings, going against CRT, stuff like that. Makes it easier in the long run at least
That’s besides the point. Your original formulation lets people think that everybody believed that abortion rights were a good thing at some point in history. Which is false.
The christofascists were always salty about their defeat. They waited until they were powerful enough to strike back, using mechanisms that are too complex to detail here.
While education is part of the retaliation against christofascism (and not just history education), Americans will need more than history books to fight back. This is far too simplistic.
Knowing who the enemy is - and there are identifiable enemies in this case - is crucial. And I think the saying you mentioned in your first comment is a bit of a thought-terminating cliché.
It sounds great, but it’s kinda garbage.
Too long didn’t read lol