• MaxHardwood
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    10 months ago

    rapid, forceful acceptance of transgender issues in our society

    Oh! How terrible for you! How can you possibly manage to live your life now that you’re aware of other people’s hardships? This is totally unfair for you!

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      10 months ago

      It’s less about trans people existing, and more about catering our society around a tiny subsection of people taking drugs to modify their appearance.

      It’s controversial to say men have penises these days because people are immediately jumping down our throat saying that’s not the case.

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        10 months ago

        What part of our society is catering to them? The part where we decide it’s wrong to attack them because they are transgender? The part where we think it’s okay for them to have the same rights as everyone else? Please tell.

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          These intolerant people don’t want people who aren’t like them to even exist, much less accept them as a normal part of society. They are happy to ignore sex chromosome differences they can’t necessarily see like YY, XXY, XXX, chimeras with multiple sets of genetic information, etc., while placing their own ignorance over the consensus of scientists, doctors, and psychologists. It’s not much different than racism, really. Just another way of othering.

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            Not to take away from your message, but what you’ve called out is under the umbrella of ‘intersex’ and genetic disorders, not necessarily trans. There can be large overlap between the two, but they are separate things.

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          10 months ago

          Why is it any time there’s the smallest opposition to anything trans it immediately swings to the extreme?

          I never mentioned anything about denying their safety or talking about limiting rights.

          It’s legal in America, they can already do what they want. Which is far better than a majority of the world, where you can’t even be gay.

          People are pushing back on the rewriting of deeply entrenched societal norms. Latinx and all that other bullshit.

          Be trans, don’t force us to participate in your delusion with you.

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            I’m actually not trans, but I’ve never felt like anyone was “forcing me to participate” in trans culture or society. On the other hand, I have often felt like religious people were pressuring me into their system of beliefs, so if we’re worrying about that sort of pressure, then we should start there.

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            You know you sound like a nazi and yet you keep repeating the same nazi propaganda.

            Do you complain about accommodation for anyone else? 🤔 All you have to do is literally not say something offensive to a trans person. That’s it. You don’t have to like trans people, you don’t have to like gay people. Hell, you don’t even have to like black people if you’re a racist. BUT YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THEM ALONE. That is literally all you’re required to do. If leaving people alone is a problem I’m afraid it’s a you problem.

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              This shit right here

              You’re blurring the line between actual extremists who seek to physically harm and completely erase trans people, and moderate people with mild criticisms.

              Because we don’t want exactly what you want, we’re Nazi’s.

              You’re welcome to delude yourselves, you are allotted that freedom. Don’t call us transphobes because we don’t want to date you. Don’t call us transphobes because we don’t want to remove all form of gender from language (Latinx). Don’t call us transphobes because we misgendered you on account of your massive fucking adams apple and deep voice.

              I’ve been nice to every trans person I’ve come across in my life, and don’t voice my opinions to them.

              I’m not the problem. Go after the radicals who seek to erase freedoms.

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                You can’t keep your mouth shut. I’m sure this isn’t the only place you harass trans people online and I’m sure you do it in real life too.

                All you have to do is leave people the fuck alone, that’s it. If all you lot Just. Left. People. Alone. There wouldn’t be a problem but you can’t even do that. That’s why trans people, hell, any person from a marginalized community has to fear for their safety. You just can’t leave them alone.

                Have a nice day.