CCTV footage of incidents adds to concerns over military’s rules of engagement in Occupied Territories

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    10 months ago

    Biden could do more, but that last sentence in your comment sounds far fetched to me. Or are you saying that because we’ve been aiding Israel all these years, that’s made it possible? I think that’s a gross oversimplification if so.

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      10 months ago

      I don’t think it is. If Biden cancelled all aid to Israel over this, I think we’d see a big shift in Israeli policy. Remember what happened when the US finally dropped their support of apartheid SA?

      • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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        10 months ago

        It would be a big shift in global policy and would be grossly negligent for any US president.

        This view represents a serious misunderstanding of America’s and indeed the western strategy in the Middle East.

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          Centrist Democrats are getting the genocide they have always wanted.

          The Standard Centrist Gaslighting, the “this is too complex for your feeble progressive mind to comprehend” bullshit, is what centrist Democrats employ whenever they don’t want scrutiny of their positions.

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              10 months ago

              0.004% of the population dead

              How large a percentage will it take to satiate you?

              Know what? I don’t trust your numbers. I want a source. Show me a reliable source that says that Israel has only killed 0.004% of the population of Gaza.

              • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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                10 months ago

                Pretty widely reported. If you’re not familiar with where that figure comes from or how it’s calculated you really don’t know enough about what’s happening there on the ground to have an opinion about what’s happening on the ground.

                Satiate? That’s a weird choice of word. I’m looking at the evidence and trying to evaluate it rationally. What are you doing?

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                  10 months ago

                  Pretty widely reported. If you’re not familiar with where that figure comes from or how it’s calculated you really don’t know enough about what’s happening there on the ground to have an opinion about what’s happening on the ground.

                  Right. You made it up and are gaslighting me.

                  You made the claim. Back it up.

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        10 months ago

        Relationships are unique and I don’t think there are many people alive who fully understand the consequences of that move. It likely wouldn’t be just a “oh well I guess we call off the war” situation in any case.

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          If anyone understands it, it’s the South African leaders who just presented their genocide case in front of the ICJ. History will remember them.

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            Has history remembered Tomas Sankara, Kwame Nkrumah and other african leaders who fought for deconlonization? It hasn’t because they got on the US’ bad side. Heck, if you go to any subreddit and look for what people think of what South Africa is doing, you will see nothing but “We should bring appartheid back to teach them a lesson” among other really bad comments