I would really rather that these were actual examples, and not conspiracy theories. We all have our own unsubstantiated ideas about what shadowy no-gooders are doing, but I’d rather hear about things that are actually happening.

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    Anyone that says J6 was a “peaceful protest” that “got out of hand”

    We all saw the footage of that day. There were gallows and calls to hang a sitting vice president.

    It was an insurrection, fomented and encouraged by Donald Trump’s speech and actions leading up to that day. Plain and simple.

    The right-wingers who say it wasn’t as serious as it was are gaslighting their base.

    Edit: Victims of gaslighting in my replies

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      Conversely, anyone who says January 6th was a coup or anything approaching more then a wet fart. We should be so lucky that a fascist police state could be overthrown by 200 disorganized unarmed people walking into the capitol.

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        The problem wasn’t them getting anywhere near literally overthrowing the entire state, but the fact that they were trying/hoping to kill people.

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          There’s so many levels on which it is deeply concerning. One is just on the face value. They actually did storm the capital, the security forces in place seemed ambivalent or perhaps actually complicit to some degree. Nevertheless, numerous people were injured or died.

          And then there’s everything about the precedent it sets for next time, the excuses and defenses being made of it, and the ways in which those sympathetic to it may prepare to execute on the same idea again in the future, perhaps learning from prior lessons, and perhaps confident that they won’t face any legal exposure.

          It’s a horrifying idea to have been allowed to take root in the form of real physical actions, which are then carried forward in culture to set the stage for future actions.

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        200? What planet do you live on? Watch a video of it. Read the January 6th Commission report.

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          On the day it happend I watched the videos being shared by the people participating amongst each other. There were tremendously more than 200 people.

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        We should be so lucky that a fascist police state could be overthrown by 200 disorganized unarmed people walking into the capitol.

        It wasn’t just 200 disorganised unarmed people, it was 200 partially-organised partially-armed people with explicit support from the sitting president trying to disturb the proceedings, so the president could carry out his plan to use “alternate electors”.

        Why do people like you always act like the republicans weren’t hoping to capitalise on what happened?

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        Are you trying to illustrate the point?

        It wasn’t 200, it was 2000.

        And while most did not carry guns, they brought other weapons and armor, and used improvised devices as weapons. And some did bring guns. Source: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/28/politics/armed-insurrection-january-6-guns-fact-check/index.html

        Thank God they were poorly organized and that the capitol police resisted…but it’s a complete lie to say it was 200 unarmed people.

        This is all on video! This isn’t a matter of opinion!