I would be here all night if I asked the Lemmy crowd every question I had, but one thing that always has stood out to me is what’s on the tin. Call me one of those childfree peoples for asking it how I did (note ahead of time that I do not judge people who have kids, I just find the alternative better), but it’s a topic I’ve always been in-tune to. It’s noble if you ask me, and instinctively, I make a large mental note whenever it happens, when it’s common amongst a group of people, etc. This shouldn’t be seen as that unusual, it’s just a good gesture and many would be expressing this up here if they have the incentive to.
That said, I noticed a deterence when it comes to “vegans” and “communists” (I put these in quotes to denote a broader category, not really to express a stance). Adoption is not something you really hear amongst conversations about the latter. They’re sometimes stereotypically associated with orphanages but that’s as far as things go. I would challenge people to find texts from such a nation that said something along the lines of “and then that child was adopted”. It’s like it doesn’t happen. Meanwhile, we’re “implied” (without it being clarified) that “vegan culture” is at odds with “adoption culture”. And the people I ask of are unique in that there really is no avoidance otherwise, you could go to any group of people, nationwise/identitywise, and they’ll have normal-to-idolizing opinions on the matter, with it being common to find clerical stories pertaining to it. I myself raise an eyebrow at this, especially with the way certain countries deal with the issue, through exportation and facilities and whatnot.
Not one to turn down an opportunity to ask/address everything in one fell swoop, I wanted to ask many of you due to experience, is there a reason or is it just not something that culturally comes to mind?
Vegan communist heee and im genuinely trying but i dont understand what you’re asking. Are you saying you think vegans and communists oppose adoption? Because i dont think ive ever heard anyone from either group make a stance against adoption. Ive heard calls for reforms to the adoption and foster system but never anyone opposing the idea of adoption
To lead up to that one way, favoritism towards adoption typically comes from the childfree crowd, which I am in a mild sense but in a way that isn’t wholly why I am more fixated on it, and they and the two groups often clash if you look them up, not so much the latter one as they’re a spectrum but in a sense that they tend to have a different method. Adoption being one of those things where if you’re in one of the more spiritual cultures it becomes like a trope, when you then look at nations that took advice from Marx, you notice a silence on the issue (save for discussions about orphanages), and it doesn’t help many such nations have a reputation for exporting their children to other countries or having a high regard in blood relations.
Admittedly the tipping point that inspired me to ask was the fact that I myself live in an adoption-heavy culture that Marx predicted will warm up to Marxism, and I’ve begun to wonder what will happen to that part of my culture if and when that happens. That and possibly the fact that this is Lemmy’s very first childfree discussion to my knowledge, despite its expertise in other ethical fields.