“Systematic reviews of controlled clinical studies of treatments used by chiropractors have found no evidence that chiropractic manipulation is effective, with the possible exception of treatment for back pain.[8] A 2011 critical evaluation of 45 systematic reviews concluded that the data included in the study “fail[ed] to demonstrate convincingly that spinal manipulation is an effective intervention for any condition.”[10] Spinal manipulation may be cost-effective for sub-acute or chronic low back pain, but the results for acute low back pain were insufficient.[11] No compelling evidence exists to indicate that maintenance chiropractic care adequately prevents symptoms or diseases.[12]”

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    You can save a lot of money by just going to a masseuse instead of a chiropractor. People attribute the positive feeling they get from attention to well being improvements, and pseudoscience practitioners certainly achieve that at a premium price. If it’s attention you want, get a massage, otherwise go to a PT and get some real help.

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      Also I think a massage therapist will tend to be more educated on the muscles and how they work together than a masseuse

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        A massage therapist tends not to provide the “extras” that you can get from a strip mall masseuse.

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        As a massage therapist that used to work in education (director of education at a massage school and taught anatomy/pathology) results will vary wildly across the States. The majority of states only started licensing in the last 10-15 years, and of course requirements for licensing and supervision varies. Some schools teach enough anatomy to get their students to pass the tests, then focus their time teaching spa type massage (aromatherapy, wraps, hot stones, etc.) or energy work. Not saying there’s anything wrong with that, but it serves a different purpose.

        There are definitely schools that exist that focus more on therapeutic/rehabilitative work, but even then the challenge is finding a therapist with an up to date approach who doesn’t buy the old school “no pain no gain” who kicks the shit out of you. Massage shouldn’t hurt. But if your find the right therapist for you, they’re worth their weight in gold.

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          Massages should hurt if your body is full of deep tissue knots like mine is. My rhomboids and forearms are basically just knots most of the time.

          But that’s largely on me for not stretching.

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        Yup. At my first massage appointment, before I even got on the table, she told me where I hurt and why I was hurting that way. And she was 100% correct.

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      Just FYI, the generally preferred term these days is “massage therapist.” Last I heard “masseuse” and “masseur” (the masculine version) have an implicit sexual connotation that “massage therapist” does not. Unless that’s what you were recommending instead of chiropractic, in which case carry on!

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        Also it has a more professional connotation. RMTs go to school and work hard to be qualified and capable of their jobs.

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      This. I’m seriously considering finding the money for an at home sauna. Get my muscles nice and warm and relaxed and then stretch the shit out of them.

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        then stretch the shit out of them.

        Just be careful. There is such a thing as over stretching. I fucked up my knees stretching after a hot yoga session and could barely walk for a couple of years.

        Everything in moderation.

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          One of the worst overstretches I did was in a pool. With my body weight canceled out I could get into deeper stretches, like by putting my leg up on the edge of the pool. Afterwards I realized I’d overdone it. lol

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          That must have sucked/hurt 🤕 … But it sounded like a real funny story for some reason…

          Mi bad…

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          You don’t have to tell me anything, seriously. I have fucked up my back no less than 3 times. The last time I fucked my back up was about a year ago and I busted my shoulder at the same time. My back is still tight and off in a few places and while my shoulder isn’t at 100% I have like 90% of rom back and more to come as I keep working on it. I have and continue to fix myself all without the help of a pt.

          I had hoped that a line like that wouldn’t be taken at face but I guess the Amelia Bedelias are making there way from reddit.

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      Any time I’ve had chiropractic as part of a PT treatment, there has always been some kind of massage first. I won’t crap on chiropractic as a physical therapy tool, because it has helped me massively with my back problems… but it’s just one tool… not a whole toolbag. Most chiropractors will treat it like the whole toolbag and a magical panacea. Those people are just quacks. You need a real physical therapist who can tell what the right tools are for your specific needs.

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        I feel the same way about any doctor who has a limited toolset, e.g. an MD who only scripts pharmaceuticals, and does not even consider all the other options for the patient. I understand they only have 3-7 minutes per patient, but really that’s no way to practice. “here’s your script, see ya next year.”