• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Ah yes 1948. Wasn’t there another war, just a few years earlier where we all determined that war wasn’t a reason to clear ethic populations off of land? Where we all decided that ethno states were bad?

    Or was it only when the Germans did it? And I don’t care that there Palestinians also attacked the British. I’m only refuting the idea that Israelis are purely victims.

    And in international law there is no 50%. Especially not for Fifty Four Years.

    And you really, really don’t want to get into the meeting civilians en masse argument. Far more Palestinian civilians have been murdered by a supposedly professional military and Israeli settlers.

    You also don’t get to conflate citizenship with rule. You don’t have to be a citizen to under their rule. Israel rules over 7 million Palestinians. That’s 50%.

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      7 months ago

      Wasn’t there another war, just a few years earlier where we all determined that war wasn’t a reason to clear ethic populations off of land? Where we all decided that ethno states were bad?

      Can’t attack an ethnostate that’s trying to kill you, that makes you as bad as Nazis!
      Why can’t they just let those nice Palestinians murder them and drive them into the sea without consequence?

      I’m only refuting the idea that Israelis are purely victims.

      Never made that claim, Hoss. I’m pointing out who the terrorists are and what caused this chapter of the conflict.

      And in international law there is no 50%. Especially not for Fifty Four Years.

      CITATION?

      Far more Palestinian civilians have been murdered by a supposedly professional military and Israeli settlers.

      Killed, yes. Murdered, no. Collateral damage in warfare/retaliation for violent attacks by a belligerent nation.

      You also don’t get to conflate citizenship with rule. You don’t have to be a citizen to under their rule. Israel rules over 7 million Palestinians. That’s 50%.

      Yes, they have administrative control over a hostile belligerent nation that is still trying to kill them after being overwhelmingly defeated time and time again. They refuse to concede and portray themselves as the victims, for some reason people like yourself find it compelling.

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        7 months ago

        Lmao Lemmy deleted my response so this is going to be shorter. (Apparently hitting the vote arrows reloads the page)

        The source is the Geneva Convention. It makes statements like, “administrative control over a hostile belligerent” and “Collateral damage in warfare/retaliation” admissions of war crimes, not arguments. We literally hung Nazis for killing civilians as retaliation.

        And the entire supposition of having to genocide them first is both Nazis propaganda (since you want to directly reference them) and bullshit. Palestinians have been very clear that they want the 1969 borders and Israel to stop their occupation.