Two questions.

My family insist on using Whatsapp for the family chats. I have to keep a copy on a device just so I can communicate with them. I do so under protest, as I was always told it isn’t secure. My brother has just said

“oh Whatsapp is encrypted, it’s perfectly secure”.

First, is it actually as encrypted and safe as my brother claims? That would solve everything.

Second, if it isn’t, where can I get some proof that we should switch to Telegram or whatever? Proof which doesn’t make me look like a raving loony?

      • Konlanx@feddit.de
        12·
        7 months ago

        It is very unpleasant to communicate with you.

        It is still unclear what you meant with “your shit”.

        Apart from that I did not argue against the signal protocol, I argued against your idiotic stance on encryption.

        Maybe reading comprehension, eh?

        • velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml
          13·
          7 months ago

          It’s a rage-bait, avoid trolls like them. Whatsapp is close-sourced - so we don’t know shit about how good their encryption is - remember how phone numbers were showing up on Google Search? Yeah. Meta also works with the local government to suppress “fake news” - so, how exactly does it know what the contents are, without breaking encryption? These are two of the most convincing reason to not use the app.

        • zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id
          115·
          7 months ago

          So? We just have differing view. No more, no less.

          Bring your shit elsewhere don’t present it to me.

          • Konlanx@feddit.de
            8·
            7 months ago

            Are you able to coherently answer or is it going to stay like this? Because then I will end this conversation here.

              • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
                6·
                7 months ago

                You’ve been nothing but rude in this entire conversation. You havent articulated a rationale in any of your messages for your position that encryption doesn’t matter, or that closed source is good enough. You don’t have a clear and defensible argument that we can engage with. You’re just throwing insults, granted most of the insults are passive insults, so kudos for that.

                  • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
                    2·
                    7 months ago

                    Using the Voyager app I never see anybody’s profile photos I don’t even think I have one.

                    For what it’s worth I don’t think this guy’s a troll. I think he doesn’t have the social graces to have a productive discussion. So he drives by a conversation drops his opinion you either agree with it or your insulted. There’s no growth, but I think it’s a very genuine human behind that keyboard emoting genuinely.

      • nick@midwest.social
        31·
        7 months ago

        Give it up, you sound like either a you don’t know what you’re talking about or a you’re a bootlicker for facebook.

        You’re never going to win a pro Facebook argument in this community.