To my knowledge, the concept of “conservatism” is the will to conserve, preserve past values that are seen as superior. While I don’t agree with this either, this community has almost exclusively posts about fearing new things and trying to show them as evil. Evil migrants, evil new generations, evil new sexualities, whatever.

I do not see any “values” in it, only fear. Rejecting migrants is not based on morals or values that are rational, but on fear. Same for the rest. Which leads to the question, what is the point of this community? It does not lead to debate, people calling it out as fascism on one side (which is quite justified as the root ideas are seemingly identical) and the other side just saying that it’s wrong and that’s it. There’s no debate of values, as there are no values to debate about.

I do not agree with the concept of conservatism, and I couldn’t care less if this place is forever doomed to be downvoted in oblivion. But if you actually want to do something else than fear-mongering, even if you insist on talking about conservatism, then maybe it would be a good idea to refocus the community on actual ideas, and not the typical far-right speeches of hatred and fear that already flood a lot of media.

Of course I believe that it would be better to reconsider opinions that basically encourage the worst of humanity; but even aside from that, there is more to do than to replace every possibility of a conversation with the (stereo)typical “immigrants bad, jesus good, gays evil” speech.

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      It’s weird to me to be in a conservative thought space like this and see someone say they don’t care about my sexuality among other things. Because when I am in a real life conservative space, and I (69f) walk around town with my spouse (67f) literally minding our own business and not so much as holding hands, we regularly get stared at, laughed at, and occasionally spit at. We get denied restaurant service. Sales clerks may permit us to make a purchase, but they take a step backwards while taking our payment. Or instead they might disappear into the back room and not reappear until after we leave the store.

      Trust me, it’s not ME focusing on my sexuality. It’s the conservatives around me. I’m just window shopping and stopping for lunch in a town I haven’t visited before.

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          I would dearly love to live in the world you believe you inhabit. I won’t bother continuing this discussion with you though, as I KNOW I’m doing nothing socially inappropriate or offensive beyond walking or eating next to my wife.

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              You don’t have to keep lying. No one here believes you, but it doesn’t fucking matter anyway. You don’t get to use your ignorance and naive conservative experience to claim that bigotry doesn’t exist.

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                  Bahaha who flies the rebel flag and cries about their heritage when Confederate monuments are taken down?

                  Oops, sorry, I made you think

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                  The disagreement button shows people are not believing you. You haven’t walked a single day in a queer person’s shoes, let alone a set of conservative shoes in a conservative area.