plant based alternatives are pretty good for reducing calories or inflammation in my experience.
Ultra processed foods are unsurprisingly (but disappointingly) still bad.
plant based alternatives are pretty good for reducing calories or inflammation in my experience.
Ultra processed foods are unsurprisingly (but disappointingly) still bad.
The point of plant-based foods is less about being healthier (but low-processed plant foods can be), the point is that plant-based foods are less ecologically demanding to produce. A pound of ground beef has a bigger carbon footprint than a pound of plant-based meat substitute.
I disagree, I think the plant alternatives should provide the same nutritional value as conventional items, otherwise people will never make the switch. I don’t think it’s fair to expect plant alternatives to be healthier, but just as healthy is fair
This is not very pragmatic. People who buy processed junk food already do not care about the health factor, what they care about is taste and cost.
As others point out, vegan junk food comes with much less cost to the environment and animal welfare. That is pretty big.
Best should not be the enemy of better.
Ahhh okay, you’re talking about junk food eaters. Totally agree on that point then. I was speaking from the perspective having a non-junk food or less junk food diet.
People shouldn’t be expected to throw away their physical health for the betterment of the environment. The healthiest vegan options are made the same way the healthiest animals products are made, by starting with fresh whole foods not high sodium, fatty, sugar loaded processed foods.
Yeap that’s what I was saying
Does it though? I can easily get information on the origin of both vegetables and meat right in the store. I have no idea where all the ingredients in plant based meat substitutes come from or where they are processed.
Yes. Farm animal raising requires several years, over which you need water and food for the animals, and over which the animals produce methane and CO2. Plants usually take one or two seasons to go from planting to harvesting - soy for example takes about six months. There are very few crops that require more than a year to grow, and none of those are staple foods.
The math is overwhelmingly in favor of plant based foods when it comes to environmental impact, at least until lab grown meat is ready for mass production.
My question was if these extra steps of ultraprocessing are taken into account here. If the corporation manufacturing meat substitutes source all their ingredients from the cheapest places and have them processed all over the globe just to eventually be shipped to the supermarket, that’s a whole lot of extra emissions.
Those are one-time emissions though, vs meat industry where the animal emissions are continuous, both from the animal itself and from sourcing the cheapest feed from all over the globe.