• WamGams
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    25 days ago

    Yes, they are pretending Trump will be better for Palestine.

    And all of them will go quiet when Trump enables total annihilation of the Palestinian people. Maybe some of them will find a way to blame Biden, but I think the majority of accounts will be abandoned the day after the election.

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      25 days ago

      If you honestly think saying “Biden is not good on Palestine” is saying “Trump is better than Biden on Palestine” I think you have a way bigger problem than the outcome of the election

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        25 days ago

        If you feel that a comment said to somebody else doesn’t apply to you, it probably wasn’t directed at you.

        That being said, the people who are poisoning the well against Biden, the ones who have made Palestine the only issue affecting this election, the ones screaming “genocide Joe,” their actions are going to lead to more dead Palestinians than anything Biden has done.

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          25 days ago

          My comment, then someone says “are we pretending trump will be better?” In response, then this person says “yes.” If they’re not talking to me and are just talking generally about other people that do this in reply to my comment, pretty weird, but my point still stands.

          their actions are going to lead to more dead Palestinians than anything Biden has done.

          Uh huh. Who has been arming Israel again?

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            25 days ago

            If the choice you get to make is 30,000 dead civilians or a person who outright said Israel needs to “finish the job,” and you are campaigning against the lesser amount of deaths, you bear moral responsibility when total annihilation happens.

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              25 days ago

              So Biden sends the bombs.

              These people say “Stop sending bombs”

              And they are the ones you think will bear the responsibility if Trump wins and makes it worse? Not trump. Not Biden for not listening to his voters OR HIS CONSCIENCE. Not Netanyahu and co using the bombs. The people saying “stop doing that.” Jesus fucking christ

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                25 days ago

                You guys are the ones who made this election solely about Palestine, rightly or wrongly (I personally think probably rightly) and now we have to vote on that.

                Do we limit the amount of deaths and use diplomacy to save lives, or do we choose the person Netanyahu wants, the one who seeks to help him complete his goals of eradication.

                All people who are helping to ensure Trump wins over Biden is helping kill Palestinian children.

                I’m sorry, but the world has given us nothing but bad choices and we have to choose the least bad option. Failure to do so is moral cowardice.

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                  I’m sorry, but the world has given us nothing but bad choices and we have to choose the least bad option.

                  In the voting booth, yes.

                  Failure to do so is moral cowardice.

                  Failure to criticise someone doing something which is obviously wrong is moral cowardice. You acknowledge it’s a bad choice and clearly don’t want Biden to be doing this, but yet can’t just criticise him based solely on his actions without reverting to the zero sum game of the election.

                  I doubt anything will change but God damn this has to be a good reason to criticise a president, surely? Do you not realize how this is making America look to the rest of the world? To be the one standing beside the bully and insisting he’s not so bad while the rest of the world (and much of America) looks on in horror.

                  You guys are the ones who made this election solely about Palestine, rightly or wrongly (I personally think probably rightly) and now we have to vote on that.

                  I definitely don’t think it should be solely about this. I would still vote for him if I was American. But unfortunately what is happening is very serious and if you actually care I can see why it’s not something you can easily put aside.