I merely referred to history that is so uncontroversial that you can easily find it on wikipedia.
Need me to help you out with that?
From wikipedia:
Political support for the Jewish return to the Land of Israel predates the formal organization of Jewish Zionism as a political movement. In the 19th century, advocates of the restoration of the Jews to the Holy Land were called Restorationists.
And yet more:
Anita Shapira, a history professor emerita at Tel Aviv University, suggests that evangelical Christian restorationists of the 1840s “passed this notion on to Jewish circles”. Evangelical Christian anticipation of and political lobbying within the UK for Restorationism was widespread in the 1820s and common beforehand. It was common among the Puritans to anticipate and frequently to pray for a Jewish return to their homeland.
Read this next part very, very carefully.
Zionism has never been anything other than antisemitic.
Everything that has ever grown from it and will ever grow from it cannot be anything other than antisemitic.
What percentage of Jews are Zionists? I don’t know but I think it might be a bit stupid to suggest most Jews hate themselves.
Zionism was literally invented by Christian antisemites in the UK - Zionists are the ultimate kapos.
It’s very easy to be self-hating when you’ve been brainwashed into channeling that self-hate into militarism and nationalism.
So what percentage of Jews are you claiming hate themselves?
I need solid numbers here, which will be easy to fins, if what you say is true.
It’s really simple - count the Jewish Zionists. Would that be difficult for you?
Okay well when you feel comfort able with your number s I will look them over!
Who do you think you’re talking to? A liberal?
When you’re done cowering behind distractions, we can continue this conversation.
If you are unable or unwilling to back up your claims, it isn’t a conversation worthy of either of our time.
What claims? Did I make any?
I merely referred to history that is so uncontroversial that you can easily find it on wikipedia.
Need me to help you out with that?
From wikipedia:
And yet more:
Read this next part very, very carefully.
Zionism has never been anything other than antisemitic.
Everything that has ever grown from it and will ever grow from it cannot be anything other than antisemitic.
Are you done counting Zionists yet?
Neither of your sources quoted claim Jews who are Zionists are self hating.