edit: thank you all for your replies! They are all very helpful. I am reading through them and will ask follow-up questions if needed.

I made a post some days ago asking about LineageOS, but my curiosity towards Google Pixels and GrapheneOS has been growing. As somebody who has always used regular Samsungs and iPhones, I hope somebody can clear up some questions I have regarding this OS.

I plan that my next phone is to be either a Motorola (LineageOS/SailfishOS?) or a Pixel (GrapheneOS). My first question about GrapheneOS, or really any non-standard OS, is this:

  • how does having an account on the device work? For example, Samsungs require a Samsung account and iPhones require an iCloud account. How does it work on non-standard OSes?

My second question touches on built-in apps that you often get with every phone:

  • does GrapheneOS have its own Notes/Drive/Photos/Messages app? If not, how does one go about obtaining these? Related question:
  • how do I sync my notes/photos/files/etc to the “cloud” of GrapheneOS?

My third question regards the app store of GrapheneOS. I have heard that the sandboxed Play Store is better than FDroid, for instance; what are your thoughts? Do I go for Aurora Store instead? Is there any major difference at all? Is it possible to use multiple app stores?

  • note that I likely won’t be solely relying on FDroid since I need some non-FOSS apps (FB Messenger for contacting family for example).

I know that in the privacy community, it’s very common to fix up a cloud of your own (i.e. NextCloud). I have no experience doing this, but is it something I must do when I install atypical OSes? Then comes the question about pricing, how private and secure it really is, which one to choose… and so on.

I understand many of these questions will sound stupid to those who are experienced, but I have not been part of this community very long. Feel free to link any educational videos or articles that answer my questions. I hope to learn more about this subject and one day installing a more secure system on my phone. Cheers!

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    The past part sounds like a joke, love all the sources, but they all have a beef with GOS 😆

    So bringing up GOS in those communities can spark some controversial discussions

    In the meanwhile in GOS community it’s strictly prohibited to mention those projects, and every time any of the projects says “Graphene” GOS asks them to not to 😅

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      The past part sounds like a joke, love all the sources, but they all have a beef with GOS

      It’s more the reverse. Some GrapheneOS users have had an extreme and obsessive hatred for anything associated with Techlore since the video revealing how insanely toxic the lead developer was. Because these people are borderline retarded, they associate criticism of a person’s behaviour as criticism of the project itself. As you say, Micay’s even gone so far as to outright censor discussion within that community. It’s all a bit sad and pathetic.

      The Techlore community is pretty casual, they are nowhere near terminally online enough to “have beef” with another project. Discussion about GrapheneOS isn’t banned there, Techlore still has all his videos up recommending GrapheneOS, Privacy Guides still recommends GrapheneOS first in the Android section of their site, etc.

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        Mostly correct, but at the same time Techlore in their “Graphene toxic community” videos explicitly multiple times said that it’s better to avoid projects that have bad/toxic communities or devs

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          Yes but Techlore also encouraged GrapheneOS users (and everyone else) to advocate for higher standards within the project as well as the privacy community more generally. At no point did Techlore ever tell people not to use GrapheneOS in the video, nor did he censor discussion in an attempt to hurt the project. Techlore’s stance overall is a pretty rational and sensible one. That some people continue to get offended by it says a lot more about them than it does about him.

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            Because Techlore gives admin position to the owner of PrivacyGuides, Jonah, who just happens to shelter GrapheneOS trolls. It is a whole circus.

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              I’ve done a huge amount of research on those guys and I think they are collabing with the feds by proxy. it is indeed a circus.