Email is an open system, right? Anyone can send a message to anyone... unless they are on Gmail! School Interviews uses two email servers t...

Email is an open system, right? Anyone can send a message to anyone… unless they are on Gmail! School Interviews uses two email servers t…

  • Greg ClarkeEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    I appreciate the frustration, you’re doing everything right. But solving the problem of spam at Gmail’s scale is hard. Gmail should prioritize user’s experience and I can see the balancing act between timely delivery and reducing spam. Are these two new mail servers?

    • pjhenry1216@kbin.social
      1·
      1 year ago

      Spam shouldn’t really come from folks that meet the standards they’re at though. It makes spam not cost effective to meet all of that. In fact, they’d likely be more effective following those standards than making up their own, which does fail frequently enough to notice.

      • HubertManne@kbin.social
        2·
        1 year ago

        I disagree on this point. Spam is a customer service and if a company will face the consequence if users are upset by to much spam which actually has been a reason folks used to abandon emails in the passed before spam filters got good which was done at the product level initially. The standards came later out of what was being done at each place independently.

        • pjhenry1216@kbin.social
          1·
          1 year ago

          I don’t understand your rebuttal. Nothing actually counters anything I said other than you saying you disagree. The rest of the post isn’t contradictive. I agree spam is bad. I agree it’s important to stop it. My point is that spam servers can’t meet the requirements listed above. The only behavior that Gmail is calling out is the amount of emails being sent, but they’re still sending them. That’s not countering spam. That’s pushing people to use their own system which is identical but isn’t free.

          • HubertManne@kbin.social
            1·
            1 year ago

            yeah I think I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying there was not reason to block if they met all the standards. Which just turns sending spam into the get your link high ranked type or thing.

      • Greg ClarkeEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        DKIM, DMARC records, etc verify that the email sender is associated with the domain it’s claiming to originate from. It doesn’t mean the email is not spam. Anyone can sign up for a Gmail account and start sending DKIM signed spam from Google’s servers. Obviously it would get shut down pretty quick but my point is that DKIM signing does not mean a message isn’t spam