• Mongostein
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    11 months ago

    The reasoning is that being fat is something you can do about whereas race is not.

    I’m not advocating being an asshole but, as a former fat guy, I can say that a little shame can be a powerful motivator.

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      11 months ago

      A little shame can be a motivator if you’re a mentally healthy person. But if you’re the kind of person who deals with a lot of stress and shame because of their life or how they are raised, which is a common cause of obesity, then a little more shame can be a straw that breaks the camel’s back and makes it worse.

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        11 months ago

        Very true, but it’s also important to have a sense of humour about yourself and people have to take some responsibility for their own lives. I always tell myself, “the easy solution to not looking fat in pictures is to not be fat.”

        Also, not being fat is proven to improve your mental health and cognitive abilities, so there’s kind of a double-edged sword there.

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          11 months ago

          You’re right, people could benefit from losing weight. That’s why you shouldn’t fat shame strangers. You’ll probably increase their feelings of shame and make them fatter. If you know someone and that they have a good sense of humour, then it’s fine. But most people don’t have a good sense of humour, and especially most fat people don’t have a good history with being called fat. You can’t make someone’s sense of humour improve by insulting them. That’s like saying “the beatings will continue until morale improves”.

          It’s all well and good to wish people were better, but there’s no way you can achieve that by expecting them to already be perfect. We live in a universe governed by the laws of causality. Free will can only take someone as far as the strength of their will. You need to think about what’s realistic.

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            11 months ago

            Agreed 100%. I’ll make fun of myself and my friends for getting fat, but not random people…. unless they’re assholes too. 🤷🏻‍♂️

            But also some people push the idea that being fat isn’t detrimental to their health and that should be challenged.

            I wasn’t trying to say I condone this post, just explaining the difference between making fun of somewhere for being fat and racism because the original comment I replied to genuinely didn’t seem to understand.