I’m just curious, but the definition sounds like distinguishing between religion and faith not exactly religion and mythology. Animism or shamanism doesn’t always have overarching dogma to teach nor actively ask other people to believe in them. Ancient Greek people did some rituals and sacrifice, that practices they did doesn’t count as religion?
I’m just curious, but the definition sounds like distinguishing between religion and faith not exactly religion and mythology.
No, the definition is distinguishing between types of faith, not between religion and faith.
Animism or shamanism doesn’t always have overarching dogma to teach nor actively ask other people to believe in them.
Okay? I’m not sure what the point of this line is.
Ancient Greek people did some rituals and sacrifice, that practices they did doesn’t count as religion?
No. The mistake that people keep making in this thread is conflating mythology and religion. They are two very distinctly different things but that does not mean that they are mutually exclusive. There is Christian mythology that is part of the Christian faith. Note the use of ‘faith’ and not the use of ‘religion’. There is a reason that these terms are frequently used when talking about what are colloquially called ‘religions’. Religion is one part of the faith. Mythology is another part of that same faith. It is important to recognize the difference between the two but that doesn’t mean that they aren’t related.
I think I need multiple Venn diagram to understand this. Or math sign like faith ∋ religion, faith ∋ mythology.
A religion requires an overarcing system of formal beliefs or dogma that it teaches.
Based on the that your line, religion needs structure. In Greek mythology, having hierarchy of gods doesn’t affect faith for each gods so it’s not work as a structured faith, so it’s not religion; is that what you meant?
The thing is I don’t think requiring structure is applicable to describe all the faiths of nowadays that layperson like me considers religion, and that’s the confusion I guess.
For instance the Taoism’s history and pratices are diverse, so it’s faith and not religion just like greek mythology. Or Shinto, more close to animism (which is wht I referred animisn it in my first post).
I’m just curious, but the definition sounds like distinguishing between religion and faith not exactly religion and mythology. Animism or shamanism doesn’t always have overarching dogma to teach nor actively ask other people to believe in them. Ancient Greek people did some rituals and sacrifice, that practices they did doesn’t count as religion?
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No, the definition is distinguishing between types of faith, not between religion and faith.
Okay? I’m not sure what the point of this line is.
No. The mistake that people keep making in this thread is conflating mythology and religion. They are two very distinctly different things but that does not mean that they are mutually exclusive. There is Christian mythology that is part of the Christian faith. Note the use of ‘faith’ and not the use of ‘religion’. There is a reason that these terms are frequently used when talking about what are colloquially called ‘religions’. Religion is one part of the faith. Mythology is another part of that same faith. It is important to recognize the difference between the two but that doesn’t mean that they aren’t related.
I think I need multiple Venn diagram to understand this. Or math sign like faith ∋ religion, faith ∋ mythology.
Based on the that your line, religion needs structure. In Greek mythology, having hierarchy of gods doesn’t affect faith for each gods so it’s not work as a structured faith, so it’s not religion; is that what you meant?
The thing is I don’t think requiring structure is applicable to describe all the faiths of nowadays that layperson like me considers religion, and that’s the confusion I guess.
For instance the Taoism’s history and pratices are diverse, so it’s faith and not religion just like greek mythology. Or Shinto, more close to animism (which is wht I referred animisn it in my first post).