This video is honestly heartbreaking. This old man couldn’t even get a piece of bread and the US is allowing this monstrous thing to happen to Gaza. Wtf.

My Jewish friends didn’t even want to defend this, they all didn’t want to defend Israel because of this. God bless that old man :(

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      Sorry, try again. The negotiations have been sabotaged by Netanyahu at every step. The American government; first at Biden’s direction and now Trump’s; has lied to the public to cover for him, blaming Hamas and twisting the word ‘ceasefire’ to not mean ceasefire at all.

      Not to mention that Israel has assassinated the “hot heads” you’re referring to, who would be counterparts to Netanyahu. The leader of the Hamas organization, Yahya Al-Sinwar, was martyred in Gaza in October. Hamas’s lead negotiator, lsmail Haniyeh, was assassinated in Tehran in July. Needless to say, they have stepped aside. Permanently.

      I suggest reading a more comprehensive history of the negotiations themselves

      When looking for the party who is being unreasonable in a negotiation, look to the one that has the least to lose by walking away. And while you’re at it, stop acting like you know better or have more urgency than the people who have experienced 77 years of dispossession, occupation, and genocide, on their own land. You call them “terrorists” as if that dismisses their humanity en masse and the inherent rationality granted by such, but you betray charitability to the Israeli government by speaking as if all of its evil is contained within one powerful man. Why do you do that?

      Actually no, wait, you must be the cooler head that will prevail. Don’t you dare introspect before sharing your responses to the dilemmas pressed in that article I shared, lest you taint your answers with terrorist propaganda! Win a “ceasefire”, except Israel is explicitly allowed to break it once you’ve given up the only bargaining chip (A chip that additionally has a chance of getting it through to the Israeli populace, who are paying attention, that their government does not care about them beyond their ability to legitimize Israel’s occupation by existing on stolen land.) OR, continue pressing for an actual realistic end to your people’s suffering.

      Yes, I’m sure if you were in Gaza you would want a “cooler” disinterested party who doesn’t care at all about you, your culture, or the land that has given both life, to be making that decision for you.

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        I have no dogs in this fight, so we can agree to disagree about the current leadership capabilities of both countries, Palestine and Israel.

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          No, I will not agree that its okay for anyone to blame the victims in this situation for their own genocide, but you can run away if you’re so afraid of challenging your own western chauvinist notions.

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            You don’t get it, do you? I think ALL govenments are tyrannical and act like terrorists in the end. Violence is violence, and none of it is justified.

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              You think a government is going to just give up power, that it won’t take mass organization to challenge hegemonic powers and a new form of governance to deprogram the racist settler colonial ideology that is embedded into the Israeli populace? That’s incredibly unrealistic. What’s your plan to get there, then, and how does it help Palestinians?

              Dogmatically denouncing all violence, when violence is the main tactic employed to enforce hegemony, is reactionary and counter productive. It only serves the status quo, to keep us where we are. It’s chauvinism.

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                I don’t have any plan, nor do I want to make one. I was merely making a point.

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                    I wasn’t denouncing violence, I was denouncing bad men. There’s a difference. George Washington was just as much of a terrorist as Benjamin Netanyahu.

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      Hamas proposed a full prisoner swap as early as Oct 8th, and agreed to the US proposed UN Permanent Ceasefire Resolution. Additionally, Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place.

      On the other hand, Israel has been preventing any peace solution for decades by it’s settlements in the West Bank, assassinated/jailed more moderate Palestinian leaders, and is completely open about it’s plan of ethnic cleansing the entire Gaza Strip and lack of interest in any peace plan.

      Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution

      The settlements represent land-grabbing, and land-grabbing and peace-making don’t go together, it is one or the other. By its actions, if not always in its rhetoric, Israel has opted for land-grabbing and as we speak Israel is expanding settlements. So, Israel has been systematically destroying the basis for a viable Palestinian state and this is the declared objective of the Likud and Netanyahu who used to pretend to accept a two-state solution. In the lead up to the last election, he said there will be no Palestinian state on his watch. The expansion of settlements and the wall mean that there cannot be a viable Palestinian state with territorial contiguity. The most that the Palestinians can hope for is Bantustans, a series of enclaves surrounded by Israeli settlements and Israeli military bases

      Others on the One-state reality:

      ‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe

      One State Solution, Foreign Affairs

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      The two are not in equal positions when it comes to keeping “cool heads”. Pretty hard to keep cool when you’ve grown up being shot at and starved and driven from your home. It’s easy to sit in a safe place and condemn someone else’s reaction to having their home conquered and their people slaughtered, but it’s another thing entirely to actually go through it.

      Of course, targeting civilians and committing war crimes is bad. No contest. But people are going to fight like cornered animals when you try to genocide them. Let’s not pretend like Hamas came out of nowhere.

      People are a product of their environment, and people who grow up while being exterminated become radical and violent. The way to stop that from happening is not to keep dropping bombs and blocking humanitarian aid and sniping children.

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        You made my exact point for me in an eloquent manner. Cooler heads have to prevail, and there are some there if people look. There always are.