I’m on lemmy.sdf.org and I currently see 18 upvotes, 0 downvotes on bdonvr’s comment.

Hmm, I see that same post with zero downvotes presently and I’m on neither beehaw nor lemmy.world. I suspect that downvoting beehaw from a remote instance might be local to that specific instance, but I’m not certain.

Wow, this is just what I’ve been looking for without even realizing it. A lot of my friends who are newer to the world of programming are very excited by this new wave of generative AI, particularly ChatGPT and GitHub Copilot. Conversely, I personally have a lot of misgivings about AI programming sort of half-formed in my mind. I’ve been programming for a while now (although I’m sure relative to all the SDF veterans I’m still pretty new to the game) and I can’t bring myself to believe that prodding ChatGPT into a reasonable output is more efficient than just writing the code yourself… and then I start to worry that perhaps I’m biased. As they say, “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it”.

Anyways, your headline alone is a better argument against the merits of AI programming than anything I was able to come up with, so going into it I knew the post would be a good read. And I wasn’t disappointed: you’ve provided me with a much better framework to discuss generative AI with folks moving forward. Thanks for writing this!

Ultimately, you can do whatever you want. You’re allowed to have more than one France discussion board on the internet. And with lemmy.ml being completely overloaded right now, maybe we want more than one discussion board.

There’s no total karma for a user yet, yes. So the perverse incentive to make number go up at all costs isn’t quite as wild as it is in Reddit.

As I wander around Lemmy more I’m also noticing that there’s a lot of opportunity for instances to have their own subcultures, which goes against the “It doesn’t matter which Lemmy instance you use” advice I’ve seen in a couple places. It definitely seems prudent to choose an instance that has an admin team and/or a theme you like, because instance-local content is going to be the easiest to find. The instance I chose is decently small and chill, but I’ve seen some other instances with a big focus on memes. To each their own!

oop! https://lemmy.sdf.org/c/[email protected] is in SDF Lemmy now and it pulled the thumbnail over, but it looks like it’s still syncing? That or we can’t actually sync kbin content.

I’m also eyeballing Tildes as a Reddit alternative, and their dev has an interesting approach to increasing signal-to-noise ratio. They don’t have downvotes, but they have labels that affect how comments are sorted, with the joke and noise labels moving comments down in the sort by a pretty significant amount.

Hmm, if that was the case I’d expect one of these other kbin instances to work. I’m trying !karabin@karab.in (kbin link) with no success.

you have my updoot

I jest. Ultimately without some sort of mechanic that disincentivizes noisy, low-effort joke comments there’s not going to be some sort of magical cultural shift. I’m just arriving, but from what I’m seeing Lemmy doesn’t have any sort of design that will skew comments towards actual discussion and away from jokes/noise in any meaningful way.