Looking at non QB #1 picks in the hall of fame 1997 - Orlando Pace, STL Rams, OT 1985 - Bruce Smith, BUF, DE 1978 - Earl Campbell, HOU (Oilers), HB 1976 - Lee Roy Selman, Tampa Bay, DE

Ryan Shazier - LB Pittsburgh Steelers. Was in his 4th year when he had a career ending injury.

Right or wrong, HOF is swayed by Super Bowl appearances. That’s Ben R’s biggest plus, and a minus for Rivers & Ryan. On the other hand he had an early career “me too” problem. My gut feel is they ignore the problem, focus on the success, and me makes it in. But I don’t think it is a slam dunk.

As far as Rivers? I don’t know if it hurts that he played for 3 teams, but no Super Bowl appearances will hurt. 8 pro bowls and 1 comeback player are pluses. But I think he just misses.