Leafeytea

Honestly, I find the entire system annoying and counter to fostering real discussions.

If you go to a party, it’s not like people in the room have tags over their heads which say “trustworthy,” “troll,” “crazy,” or whatever else. You have to make up your own mind based on your interactions and (hopefully) use of critical thinking to decide if someone you are talking with is worth your time.

If I don’t want to take the time to read anything which might offend me, put me off, make me uncomfortable, challenge me, or just in some way be contrary to my world view then frankly, online forums would not be the spaces in which I would be reading things.

I believe that everyone has a point of view that can have value in some way, if only to illustrate that “negative” or “contrary to me” view and people exist around me. They have voices to contribute. Deciding if their contributions are valuable enough to award them a positive or negative “Reputation” is not an abstract thing. A true reputation takes time to build in the real world. It is earned for better or for worse, by actions people take over time not by some arbitrary number farmed by a bot posting cat memes 24/7 or whatever, or posting viewpoints sure to garner upvotes because like minded people are the only ones replying.

ThIS! 😂

edit - Seriously? I see we are back to down voting for agreeing now? good grief. I guess some things really don’t change.

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I think the system on Reddit was pretty terrible and ripe for abuse. Over the years I saw a lot of threads where people discussed being harassed by another user who disagreed with them in a sub, and then proceeded to hunt down their posts and down-vote every single thing they posted across the site. Downvotes for literally no reason other than some irrational dislike of someone they don’t even know, etc. Conversely, lots of high karma posters who never really contributed anything other than low effort posts like memes and pics.

I think having and using the upvote/downvote system is a very poor tool for promoting critical thinking and open discussion. Even posts that contain opinions that seem horrid to the majority of others commenting in a thread discussion can still have value as they can help illustrate the world is larger than the little bubble present in a thread and sub of like minded people where only those who agree with each others’ ideas are given value.

Already disliking that I see the upvote/downvote buttons present on kbin as well as reputation points, so not really even sure I will be engaging long term tbh. Have stated before in other comments that I don’t think it wise to just recreate the systems in Reddit since we will just end up in the same place, with the same issues. We should be better than that. Feel free to downvote now. ;)

Wow. I am feeling a bit more than disappointed by this move.
I mean, I guess all well and good for everyone that just wants to go back there, but frankly for me? this makes me want to never do it now, even when I might have maaaybe considered it before had they stuck to what they said they would do.
I made some nice friends there and will miss them, but I think the environment is frankly just not worth it anymore.

I would say by not trying to just recreate it.

If this space it to be truly it’s own, there should be more freedom to not only share ideas but actually discuss them, even if they are difficult. Reddit often felt like a place for like-minded only discussions, over and over, almost everywhere.

The negativity and toxic habits especially need to really be left there. Question shaming/ridiculing, immediately down-voting comments into oblivion just because they don’t reflect the same opinions — ending all of those bad habits would be a welcome start.

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Haha!! you gotta love this! 😂
Will definitely be fun to hear what he has to say about all this in the next Last Week Tonight. 😊

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Hi. Welcome to the game first off. It’s hard sometimes for veterans to remember what it’s like to be totally new to the game and feeling really confused about what is happening, so I can certainly sympathize with what you expressed.

First off, if you are not aware of this, there is an action camera option in GW2. Turn it on in your settings under camera. You will find you can target what you have your crosshair on just as in ESO, so no need to tab target. It is not the best way to play if you are in PvP mode, but it’s pretty good in PvE so try it out.

Second, if particular aspects of the Mesmer class appealed to you when you chose it, then those things may be important factors in choosing your elite spec. later. Mesmers, by definition are not straightforward classes like Warriors or Rangers, as they have a unique way of both fighting and defending themselves against enemies which go beyond just the weapon skills and effects, as you probably already have seen.

Traditionally, when the Chronomancer spec was introduced it was a highly effective spec for tanking in group content, but over the years it has been changed a lot so it has dropped out of top tier favour compared to other support specs but it is still pretty good as support. If you like being more of a supportive player to your team it’s highly enjoyable and a very solid choice. The condition variant can also provide a lot of dps in addition to quickness. You can play it as straight up power DPS as well but it does take some time to get used to it unique use of wells and longer rotation.

Mirage is by far one of the more impactful specs in the game for damage dealers, despite opinions to the contrary… part of why it has been seeing many recent changes is because there has been some concern from the devs that it was over-performing in it’s role as dps and as alac dps. It just one of those specs with both a high skill floor and ceiling, so the better you get at playing, the stronger it will perform for you. Personally, I have been playing Mesmer since beta and Mirage is by far my favourite spec, so know I am probably a little biased on this. While it’s true recent changes and the ones coming up will bring us down a notch or two again, it still remains to be seen by how much. Mirage offers high damage, fast play style, and good defenses so you can be incredibly independent and tackle just about any enemy with a lot of confidence and effect.

Virtuoso, the pink flying dagger thingy aside…, has some interesting play in that your daggers replace your traditional illusions/phantasms on shatter, so in some ways it feels a little antithetical to the entire concept of a Mesmer. It was introduced in the latest expansion, and so it is pretty popular with many players especially ones who are new to Mesmer. It has a much lower skill floor than Condition Mirage or Power Chronomancer, so it is very beginner friendly. But it does take some solid practice to bring up your mastery of the spec which can make it a little deceiving in the beginning. It has effective builds for both power and condition, so either would be a nice one to try out.

This all said, if you feel you got to 80 too quickly, which is understandable, there is nothing pushing you to do/choose elite specs now. You can always focus on doing things like map completion and mastery points round the base game, before jumping in to expansion zones. They will always be there so you don’t need to hurry unless you want to. Having more confidence in your class as a whole is important so read all your tool tips, not just on your skills and weapons but also on your trait lines so you are clear on how they synergize together and why.

Feeling like your understanding of the core class is on more solid ground will help you decide which things you want to try first in the elite specs. Optimizing can come once you are clear on why you are doing it – just throwing on a build from SnowCrows or Metabattle without clearly seeing why it is set up that way will not help you play any better. Practice is what will give you that understanding, and being in real combat not just on a golem As is, they are all pretty cool specs for different reasons, so just have fun with it and see which feels best to you. Cheers! 😊💜

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