I’ve been convinced to build my own NAS again instead of going with a Synology and I’m thinking there are probably parts that don’t matter if you buy used vs new but I’m curious what your thoughts are?

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    7 months ago

    Aside from drives, the rest of the components are fine. But honestly, I use what I had for a computer before upgrading to my current one. Old components you have around can be a good idea.

    I don’t really like buying drives second-hand, but I suppose it shouldn’t be an issue if the drive is relatively new and has had little use.

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    7 months ago

    The only thing I buy new are the HDD’s for the bulk storage.

    I’ll buy used enterprise SSD’s for flash storage.

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      7 months ago

      Oh wow, that’s awesome. No concerns buying used CPU, RAM, or MOBO? I’m assuming you buy a new power supply though right?

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        7 months ago

        Not OP but, CPU and RAM have incredible low failure rates. Mobos are pretty rare too. A PSU Id but new, and make sure it’s the highest efficiency.

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        7 months ago

        No concerns here.

        I buy used server chassis and power supplies for my NASes.

        The only new items in my primary, backup, and offsite NASes are the 500TB of HDD’s and a couple of fan splitters.

        The only new items in my 3 Proxmox nodes are…nothing actually. All SSD’s, HDD’s and everything else is used enterprise hardware.

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    Motherboard, CPU and RAM - no problem at all (more accurately, problems are easy to spot with diagnostics and they shouldn’t wear out).

    Chassis - a bit of a wild card. The backplane in one of my systems is faulty.

    PSUs - ideally new.

    HDDs - almost all of mine are secondhand. Enterprise- or NAS-grade drives should have many years of life left. Ideally buy new to benefit from warranty but my experience has been great.

    SSDs - nope. Buy new. I bought some secondhand Samsung SSDs and they developed problems, both threw IO errors after a few weeks. SSDs are cheap enough not to bother with secondhand.

    Everything else I bought used, including the rack. In fact, the only things I bought new in my entire homelab are my router and WiFi AP.

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    Power supply and case I’ve always bought new. Everything else has been 100% used enterprise parts off eBay, or used hand-me-downs from my gaming rig. No issues in 15 years doing this.

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      7 months ago

      Got any good key words to make sure I’m finding desirable used enterprise stuff?

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    7 months ago

    My NAS is almost filled with used parts, mostly lightly used. Only the power supply is brand new as the form factor is hard to find.(flex ATX, I bought an FSP FlexGURU)

    IMO excluding HDD, most hardwares can be used without much consequence: CPU, RAM(I only trust original/major grade sticks), case and perhaps power supply(from reputable brand and known good model)

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    My entire NAS is used parts, including used enterprise HDD’s. I put the gear through a thermal, memory, and IO stress tests and all checked out. I bought 10 drives when I only needed 8 with assumption that at least 2 would be bad (none of them were and they’ve been in use for > 2 years). Correction - the case was new, I uses a Rosswill rackmount.

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      7 months ago

      So many of us use rosewill. Are you using the one that fits the 15 drives. I got that one years ago for about $130 off of Newegg but at one point there were as low as $80 right before the pandemic. Last I looked they were over 200.

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    7 months ago

    Since I buy used enterprise drives, I suppose nothing is off the table.

    Oh wait! No used thermal paste tubes.

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    7 months ago

    Everything used from wall cord to drives. It either works or fails pretty fast so I can exchange or replace if it was cheap enough.

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    I’ve bought my entire setup used hahaha. Prob not the best but it’s been working since so fingers crossed but I found 2x16tb exos for $100/each and was lucky to snap up a QNAP TS451+ (4bay) used for under $50. Also grabbed 2x3.84TB SSD (Samsung enterprise grade with less than 100 hours each for $150/piece). I feel as long as you can find lightly used, you can’t go wrong!

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    7 months ago

    Don’t buy too old a synology or you’ll be shopping on Uzbek electronics websites for caddies like I am.

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    7 months ago

    I’d probably buy everything used other than the power supply and drives.

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    My current setup is all used, except the mobo cause mini ITX LGA 1200 is a pain, and the PSU cause I got a great deal on that passive one. But they could also have been used.