TL;DR: Is there a way to have two different (unreliable) ISPs connected to a single network switch, so that when one drops out, the home network is automatically switched to the other ISP?
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Hi all!
I am a networking hobbyist, and I built out a home network for a family friend of mine living in Mexico. They have an ISP reliability problem I have not encountered before. Their service frequently cuts in and out, and thus they have two separate ISPs to ensure connectivity at all times.
I currently have both ISP’s gateways plugged into the same unmanaged network switch. The hope is that if one ISP goes out, the switch will be smart enough to use the other one. In practice, when both ISPs are up and running, the network switch seems to flip randomly between the two of them which causes interruptions on the home network.
I would like to have both ISPs plugged in at the same time so my customer does not have to walk down to the switch swap inputs. Is this functionality I would need a mananaged switch to accomplish?
Let me know what you think, and thanks for your help!
AF
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You just need a router / gateway that supports load balancing across 2 WANs.
I know that the UI UDM-SE supports this, dont know about others.
Good video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHp0FA9yAKE&t=42s
That’s a router/firewall job, not a switch job.
https://youtu.be/Fg8GRRUfUVw?si=nI9Y4zkEE3wOiZ-Q
Check this guy out. Might help
Get a TP-Link ER605 multi WAN router which is designed to do load balancing or failover with multiple WAN inputs.
Araknis has one that can do this
I can’t think of a way to do it with an unmanaged switch because, if I’m understanding correctly, it’s going to be a routing issue.
I think you need a router in the middle so that your entire home subnet has the same gateway. Then, when one of the uplinks goes down you don’t have to change gateways on anything but the primary router.
Look for a router with multiple wan ports. I used a Luxul XBR-2300 for this style setup for years. My current Araknis AN-310 will do up to 3 Wan ports for fail over. It really depends on how much you’re willing to spend.
Got an old computer sitting in a corner somewhere? Add a multi-port network card and set up Opnsence. Haven’t done it myself, but there are multiple web pages describing how to do just this.
synology routers do this OOTB.
This is called WAN failover (or policy based routing depending on your needs) and that’s of course the job of a router.
ISP’s gateways plugged into the same unmanaged network switch.
This will not work and will cause issues with your networks performance
This is something a router would do, not a switch. You would need to have a router with multiple WAN ports so not most consumer routers
Sounds like you need a dual WAN router, and you’ll need to set your current two ISP modems so they are not assigning IP addresses. There are some consumer dual WAN routers you can get, I think Asus has some models. You can set them to use one ISP as the primary, and when that drops out, the router automatically uses the secondary. When the primary is back online, the router automatically changes back. You’ll get perhaps a few seconds of dropout but it shouldn’t need any user intervention.
Get a used SRX300 off eBay.
There’s nothing an SRX can’t do.
This a good explanation on how to proceed.
https://packetpassers.com/multiple-isp-connectivity-redundancy/
This how to set it up
https://knowledgebase.paloaltonetworks.com/KCSArticleDetail?id=kA10g000000ClElCAK
These are firewalls to buy. Fort iNet looks like the best to use for dual isps because it offers load balancing to get the best signal and quick switchover.
These are the ones to buy/choose.
https://www.allconnect.com/blog/the-4-best-hardware-firewalls-for-home-wi-fi
something like TP-Link ER605 router, allows 2 wan links