Also I know the current South African government has nothing to do with the government 30 years ago… seems ironic
Yikes.
They had a lot to do with it - insofar as the ANC actively fought against the Apartheid Government for years and years. The ANC is now the party in power in South Africa.
Calling it “ironic” that people who were oppressed by apartheid are now opposed to it when they see it happening in other countries, is bizarre. It’s a bit like blaming India for the British Raj.
Why cherry pick the Uyghurs? There are multiple genocides going on in the world.
The difference here is that Apartheid was a very specific political system. It involved people having different rights based on ethnicity, settlers, and Black people being forced to live in “homelands” and needing permission to travel.
Black South Africans have been criticising Israel for having similar policies for many years - decades before persecution of the Uyghurs was a thing. Bishop Desmond Tutu was criticising Israel’s treatment of Palestinians in 1989 after visiting.
Okay I get what you mean. Because of China’s involvement in BRICS. That’s a fair point.
I’m not sure what South Africa’s stance on it is. I know they’re definitely not in the consortium of African nations that unconditionally supports China. But I’m guessing they’re probably keep their criticisms low key for dipomatic reasons the same as my own country (NZ). It’s a pity.
I’d be more interested in their stance on other genocides in their own part of the world, but that’s not something Western media has ever shown the slightest interest in.
Worth noting though that it was South Africa who hosted the recent African Union peace talks to attempt to end the incipient genocide in Ethiopia’s Tigray region. So I don’t think it’s fair to claim they don’t care about genocides.
And like I said, apartheid structures have a special relevance for them that is different to what China - or Ethiopia - are doing.
There’s no one who don’t care about genocides, even the people who commit genocide. Because its never genocide to the perpetrator. I’m sure they are really tough against genocide committed by people they have no relation to. Because that’s what anyone would do (who’s not insane). And points to them for the peace talk. But when they ally with a country currently committing that is sadly a much stronger supports towards genocider in general than against.
And like I said, apartheid structures have a special relevance for them that is different to what China - or Ethiopia - are doing.
Culturally, to the people of South Africa, without a doubt… to their politicians however…
Yikes.
They had a lot to do with it - insofar as the ANC actively fought against the Apartheid Government for years and years. The ANC is now the party in power in South Africa.
Calling it “ironic” that people who were oppressed by apartheid are now opposed to it when they see it happening in other countries, is bizarre. It’s a bit like blaming India for the British Raj.
Sorry as I clarified below I didn’t mean ironic as in hypocritical just interesting.
Sorry, I misunderstood because of the context.
Apartheid don’t seem to pose any problem when its genocide against the Uyghurs ^^
Why cherry pick the Uyghurs? There are multiple genocides going on in the world.
The difference here is that Apartheid was a very specific political system. It involved people having different rights based on ethnicity, settlers, and Black people being forced to live in “homelands” and needing permission to travel.
Black South Africans have been criticising Israel for having similar policies for many years - decades before persecution of the Uyghurs was a thing. Bishop Desmond Tutu was criticising Israel’s treatment of Palestinians in 1989 after visiting.
I took the Uyghurs because I read a bit about what’s happening. I know about it, that’s all and China is one of the most important BRICS.
Oh and the persecution have been going on since the birth of Communist China with Chairman Mao
Okay I get what you mean. Because of China’s involvement in BRICS. That’s a fair point.
I’m not sure what South Africa’s stance on it is. I know they’re definitely not in the consortium of African nations that unconditionally supports China. But I’m guessing they’re probably keep their criticisms low key for dipomatic reasons the same as my own country (NZ). It’s a pity.
I’d be more interested in their stance on other genocides in their own part of the world, but that’s not something Western media has ever shown the slightest interest in.
Worth noting though that it was South Africa who hosted the recent African Union peace talks to attempt to end the incipient genocide in Ethiopia’s Tigray region. So I don’t think it’s fair to claim they don’t care about genocides.
And like I said, apartheid structures have a special relevance for them that is different to what China - or Ethiopia - are doing.
There’s no one who don’t care about genocides, even the people who commit genocide. Because its never genocide to the perpetrator. I’m sure they are really tough against genocide committed by people they have no relation to. Because that’s what anyone would do (who’s not insane). And points to them for the peace talk. But when they ally with a country currently committing that is sadly a much stronger supports towards genocider in general than against.
Culturally, to the people of South Africa, without a doubt… to their politicians however…