This is mediafactcheck’s bias coming through. This site is founded by Israeli Jews and is explicitly intended to give a Jewish perspective on the conflict. Media fact check takes the words of Zionist-sympathetic organizations like the anti-defamation league too highly, so Mondoweiss gets labeled as antisemitic even though personally I haven’t seen a single example of antisemitism on it. The claim that a site created and run by an Israeli, progressive Jew is antisemitic, there needs to be sufficient evidence for that, otherwise the most logical conclusion is that antizionism is being presented as antisemitism.
You’re relying on a single account from someone who admittedly wasn’t present?
I’m not able to definitively state the Israelis didn’t kill their own in an attempt to take out the terrorists but nothing here is anything close to definitive that they intentionally wiped out their own people.
Sigh it’s now clear that you’re not discussing this in good faith so I won’t engage any further. For anyone else bothering to follow the comment chain down this far, this guy is purposely misinterpreting the articles to create the slightest hint of weakness in a part of the evidence and dismiss the whole thing. Read the articles yourself and then decide if they’re “close to definitive” or not.
https://mondoweiss.net/2023/10/a-growing-number-of-reports-indicate-israeli-forces-responsible-for-israeli-civilian-and-military-deaths-following-october-7-attack/
This is why I’m saying we need to wait for more information. Quick reminder that Israel still hasn’t said how many of the 1200 who died were IDF.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/mondoweiss/
Can you please use less bias sources if you’re going to attempt to spread lies?
Like this one is known for being extreme and Antisemitic. If this is where you’re getting your information, you should probably find better sources.
This is mediafactcheck’s bias coming through. This site is founded by Israeli Jews and is explicitly intended to give a Jewish perspective on the conflict. Media fact check takes the words of Zionist-sympathetic organizations like the anti-defamation league too highly, so Mondoweiss gets labeled as antisemitic even though personally I haven’t seen a single example of antisemitism on it. The claim that a site created and run by an Israeli, progressive Jew is antisemitic, there needs to be sufficient evidence for that, otherwise the most logical conclusion is that antizionism is being presented as antisemitism.
Can you provide another source? If it’s verifiable, you shouldn’t have an issue providing something that is considered less biased then.
https://electronicintifada.net/content/israeli-forces-shot-their-own-civilians-kibbutz-survivor-says/38861
(Despite the name they have a pretty good rating on mediafactcheck).
https://therealnews.com/did-israels-military-kill-its-own-civilians-on-oct-7
You’re relying on a single account from someone who admittedly wasn’t present?
I’m not able to definitively state the Israelis didn’t kill their own in an attempt to take out the terrorists but nothing here is anything close to definitive that they intentionally wiped out their own people.
Sigh it’s now clear that you’re not discussing this in good faith so I won’t engage any further. For anyone else bothering to follow the comment chain down this far, this guy is purposely misinterpreting the articles to create the slightest hint of weakness in a part of the evidence and dismiss the whole thing. Read the articles yourself and then decide if they’re “close to definitive” or not.
Purposely calling out bias is now misinterpretation?
Ya, you’re in the ‘alternative facts’ world where reality doesn’t matter so long as it backs your narrative.
Find a source that’s not biased, and doesn’t reference your original biased source and I’m interested.
The bottom link seems to meet your criteria, but it doesn’t seem like you care.