My great-uncle once said, ‘figures don’t lie, but liars can sure figure’. Trying to change the narrative from killers to victims in an effort to try and make my statement look untrue is a bad-faith argument.
Try ‘serial killer statistics by gender instead’. Most of those men are being killed by other men.
Yes that’s a possibility. It’s also probable that a lower percentage of women serial killers are caught because of the expectation that women are not the killers. Regardless women are not the primary target.
Women can’t even be prosecuted for other violent crimes like rape.
I hate to be that guy but women can kill people. There have even been women serial killers. It’s a stereotype that only men are dangerous. It leads to women not being prosecuted for violent crimes like rape and murder. In countries like mine women can’t technically even rape someone.
First of all, the large amount of known serial killers are presumably those that were actually caught, but what about those that weren’t? What percentage of killers might be left uncaught simply because in other cases, the focus was on males as suspects?
It’s kinda like saying “the vast number of cases where police found drugs during a search were of race X”… but if they’re searching “race X” at a 5-1 ratio then yeah that stat is skewed by bias.
For every Dahmer we catch, a Lucy Letby might be running amok because we are biased towards believing that such killers belong to a particular demographic.
Yeah I think this is a much more likely explanation than the idea that there are 10x more male murderers than female ones. I can understand some differences due to socilisation, but not that much.
Historically too, physical capabilities and social circumstances may have tended to have female killers use methods such as poisons etc rather than more blatant physical attacks etc.
Medical forensic technology was also less advanced, and food safety less rigorous.
If a bunch of people died of a “bad batch” of food or a lover fell down the stairs, drowned etc after too much drink, what would the chances of an in depth-investigation in comparison to say somebody found beaten, strangled, or stabbed?
It’s easy to not find something that you’re not looking for, and easy to not be looking for it if you start with a biased assumption.
That said, this is a rather dark turn from the more wholesome content of the original post. I very much enjoyed the story as an example of checking one’s bias and not assuming the worst of people. One should be careful, but being too much so means missed opportunities for what may end up becoming a beautiful friendship like we’ve seen here. Both individuals sound like the types of friends I wish I’d had when younger, and the types of adults I’d love to sit and enjoy a meal with.
Yeah turns out maybe you shouldn’t be a judgmental piece of shit, just like you judged jock dude bro to be that way …
There is a saying: men are afraid women will laugh at them. Women are afraid men will kill them.
Being an out-of-the-closet lesbian increases the risk of attack.
So it’s understandable they reacted that way. Also sad, because the world really shouldn’t be that way. But it is.
The majority of people being killed are men. 78.7% worldwide according to the UN of murder victims are men. This doesn’t make any sense. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gender
My great-uncle once said, ‘figures don’t lie, but liars can sure figure’. Trying to change the narrative from killers to victims in an effort to try and make my statement look untrue is a bad-faith argument.
Try ‘serial killer statistics by gender instead’. Most of those men are being killed by other men.
Serial Killers by Gender
Yes that’s a possibility. It’s also probable that a lower percentage of women serial killers are caught because of the expectation that women are not the killers. Regardless women are not the primary target.
Women can’t even be prosecuted for other violent crimes like rape.
Okay. Let me try this again, slower. With fewer words.
Most. Women. Are. Killed. By. Men.
Most. People. Murdered. Are. Men.
Police. And. Courts. Are. Biased. Against. Men.
Being a condescending arsehole isn’t gonna get you anywhere mate.
And all that is done to men mostly by other men. Hence she was right to be nervous around a man.
I hate to be that guy but women can kill people. There have even been women serial killers. It’s a stereotype that only men are dangerous. It leads to women not being prosecuted for violent crimes like rape and murder. In countries like mine women can’t technically even rape someone.
Only 8.6% of known U.S. serial killers are female. In terms of motive, composited data shows that almost 70% of female serial killers acted for financial gain.
As with many things, known can be a loaded word.
First of all, the large amount of known serial killers are presumably those that were actually caught, but what about those that weren’t? What percentage of killers might be left uncaught simply because in other cases, the focus was on males as suspects?
It’s kinda like saying “the vast number of cases where police found drugs during a search were of race X”… but if they’re searching “race X” at a 5-1 ratio then yeah that stat is skewed by bias.
For every Dahmer we catch, a Lucy Letby might be running amok because we are biased towards believing that such killers belong to a particular demographic.
Yeah I think this is a much more likely explanation than the idea that there are 10x more male murderers than female ones. I can understand some differences due to socilisation, but not that much.
Historically too, physical capabilities and social circumstances may have tended to have female killers use methods such as poisons etc rather than more blatant physical attacks etc. Medical forensic technology was also less advanced, and food safety less rigorous.
If a bunch of people died of a “bad batch” of food or a lover fell down the stairs, drowned etc after too much drink, what would the chances of an in depth-investigation in comparison to say somebody found beaten, strangled, or stabbed?
It’s easy to not find something that you’re not looking for, and easy to not be looking for it if you start with a biased assumption.
That said, this is a rather dark turn from the more wholesome content of the original post. I very much enjoyed the story as an example of checking one’s bias and not assuming the worst of people. One should be careful, but being too much so means missed opportunities for what may end up becoming a beautiful friendship like we’ve seen here. Both individuals sound like the types of friends I wish I’d had when younger, and the types of adults I’d love to sit and enjoy a meal with.
How many men are murdered vs women? Women are not even the primary target of murder. 78.7% of murder victims worldwide are men. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gender
And yet most women who are murdered are murdered by men.
Do you have any statistics on this?
https://bjs.ojp.gov/female-murder-victims-and-victim-offender-relationship-2021