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  • bostonbananarama@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    In these categories, they are exactly alike. IN. THESE. CATEGORIES. they are the same (again: not in all other features).

    In other words, in the ways they are alike, they are alike. Congratulations, you’ve created a tautology.

    Your objections amount to

    No. I’m not claiming they’re not fruits, I’m rejecting the claim that because they are both fruits their other qualities and attributes are transitive.

    Your argument basically boils down to they are both fruits, therefore apples also have a lot of vitamin C.

    I agree that age and race are reasons that someone could treat another person disparately but the similarities end there, which makes race a bad analogy.

    Great, we agree that they share a single common factor, but that alone does not make race analogous to age. The many reasons why they’re different, is why it’s a bad analogy, it is why they’re not analogous.

    • beebarfbadger@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Your argument basically boils down to they are both fruits, therefore apples also have a lot of vitamin C.

      This is where you are wrong. My argument is and has always been “fruit a belongs in the category fruits, just like fruit b”.

      “Age discrimination consists of the following factors: [different treatment], [based on personal properties] - just like racism, which also consists of the following factors [different treatment], [based on personal properties]”. Go look it up up there.

      I don’t know where you’re pulling the assumption that I was ever saying anything different from, but that’s all happening on your end.

      • bostonbananarama@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        My argument is and has always been “fruit a belongs in the category fruits, just like fruit b”.

        I agree race and age are two bases for different treatment. If you have no point beyond that, then fair enough, your analogy is useless.

        • beebarfbadger@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          your analogy is useless

          Not quite, it did serve as another example of different treatment that is based on personal features. Mission 100% absolutely successful.

          • bostonbananarama@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            Not quite, it did serve as another example of different treatment that is based on personal features. Mission 100% absolutely successful.

            OK, I agree, but how did that elucidate my understanding of the use of age as a factor in disparate treatment? Because, again, the myriad of differences between the two make the comparison inapplicable, IMO.

            • beebarfbadger@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              It was meant to serve as an example for different treatment based on personal properties:

              • different treatment based on the personal feature “age” being called age discrimination and
              • different treatment based on the personal feature “race” being called racism.

              Nothing more, nothing less.

              I’m sorry, it didn’t satisfy whatever additional objectives you’re picking now, but then again it was never supposed to (and even if it did satisfy them, you’d just move that goalpost farther anyway).