I’ve always heard that you folks like to keep tons of backups of your stuff. I have also heard that there is this 3-2-1 rule about keeping you backups. My question is: do you follow it personally or is it something that people just tell you to follow?
I use rclone with encryption via cloud and also endpoints backup.
You may laugh but I burned all my super important stuff(hi res scans of photos going back to wheN they got off boat and lot S of other pics and vid’s ) onto 50 Blu-ray disks. Since I have no friends I’d trust I found a piece of 6 inch pvc pipe glued cap on one end and threaded plug on other leak checked it put disks in it and buried in the yard a foot and half deep with p gravel around it. My main worry is Forrest fire I live in woods. Only thing in my backyard is me and the deer and a big ass raccoon. It doesn’t need updating. It’s been underground 5 yrs now I should dig it up and have a look I suppose. My daughter that lives a few hundred miles away knows where it is incase I get ate by raccoons. But not what’s inside of it. She has the originals. So not a good place for digital copies. There’s also a note in my will for someone to go dig it up. It’s not hard to find has a paver stone as x marks spot.
So it’s 6 inch PVC… how long is it? We need to know it’s capacity in TB.
This seems fairly sensible to be honest
It’s not.
Why not?
Are you really asking why it’s not a good idea to go dig a hole in some random corner of the forest and store your “sealed with glue” PVC pipe full of really important media on DVDs to save for your daughter (who, coincidentally, also has the originals already?) for long term safe data storage?
Or do you just wanna chat?
I mean, I’m cool w/ the second one but I have a hard time taking anyone seriously for the first one.
Optical disks buried in a back yard… do you check them for disk rot? If you aren’t testing the restore, you don’t have a backup!
Have you considered encrypting the data and storing it with a cloud provider?
No I don’t want to have a forever reoccurring bill. And who knows ten years from now the encryption method we use now can be cracked by some method we don’t know of now. Or the password is lost to time. And I dont trust the cloud much I use it for some stuff but not the Crown Jewels. My biggest fear is that I die they sell house new owner finds it that’s why I have it in my will to dig up before house is sold. But I’ll be dead and won’t care also. But they don’t need to see a video of my daughter when she’s two months old pooping on me.
you definitely sound like someone who lives in the woods
It’s something that everyone should follow.
It is also something that everyone can absolutely afford to follow, for at least some of their data.Take this for example.
A 5 pack of 128GB USB drives is dirt cheap.
Encrypt them all, keep two plugged into a USB hub. One in a drawer, one you keep in your car (who cares if it dies) and store another in a safe deposit box/friend’s/family member’s house.
If your house burns down you get to keep that 128GB of data, if you want more, pay more, but this is available for under $45 so yes everyone should do it for at least some of their data. There’s no excuse.My music, photos, and documents are backed up remotely (Dropbox).
Everything else is just backed up to another machine.
For me it’s cost. 80tb wouldn’t be cheap enough for me.
I get down on my knees every month just to pray that I don’t need to use my back ups. Then, when the inevitable happens, I get down on my knees and pray thanks that I have my back ups.
More religious than anything else in my life. I have had numerous events occur over the past 2 decades and can confirm that restoring is so much easier and better than installing from scratch. Also data( in my case the usual pictures/movies/documents/etc) are at least duplicated on other media/devices/etc.
I follow it for the most critical data, other data get just one copy (but those data is not important to me)
3-2-1 is the minimum I follow for anything important.
1 copy is the working data, 1 copy is a full system image stored on a NAS with incremental backups done nightly with Veeam, and 1 copy is on Backblaze B2 with incremental backups done nightly with Restic,
Not yet. My 2nd form of media will be Blu-ray 100GB Discs, and second location will probably be another house 30 minutes away. I DO have about 3-4 copies of my most important data.
I follow it personally, backup locally to a WD drive, and cloud is idrive
I’m a photographer with almost 25TB of photographs.
Primary storage: diy truenas On-site backup: off the shelf branded nas Off-site backup: cloud storage.
Just a note: any automated backup you need to be 100% sure you have set it up to not sync deletions.
Locally, I have RAID on my NAS, my sentimental stuff is mostly synced with other systems through seafile (similar to nextcloud), and is also backed up to backblaze.
For everything else, it’s just RAID.
I do main data at home, external HD as backup offsite (I update maybe 1-2x a year otherwise it’s turned off/unplugged), and any new files not on the backup are in cloud storage + local HD, separate from main data.
If either drive failed I’d just order a new one since the odds of both failing within a couple days would be low.
I have a 2-2-0 for now. The problem is with 100 TB of data, it’s hard to find an offsite back up that is reasonable priced.
Everyone else seems to have parents or these things called “friends” that they can ask to hold onto. Wonder where I can find them.If by 3-2-1 you mean what I try to repeat to myself calmly when I lose my data, then yes
There are excellent articles that go over all this. Do a something search.
Bottom line, yes, you should at least do 3-2-1 methodology. More than that is gravy.