The only threat to this burgeoning community is the same old divide & collapse nonsense that separates citizens under their overlords everywhere.
I would create accounts and start calling to defederate instances which allow non-polite (or politically incorrect or otherwise offensive) communities.
We didn’t just survive the trolls on reddit. We thrived amongst them. We can handle them. We can block them.
I want curatorial tools to curate my own feed. I absolutely 100% do NOT want any admins telling me what I can’t read. And going to another instance is no solution if that instance is blocked.
I don’t want to be on a purely polite ecosystem, or a purely right-wing-idiot ecosystem. I want access to everybody, and the tools to curate that experience.
The trolls do NOT have the power to take us down. But the admins definitely do.
Welcome to the Defediverse.
I’ll ignore this conspiracy theory, painting those wanting defederation as some social media giants psy-op, to get to the same underlying problem we always come back to: not wanting others to decide what we can or cannot see.
The fact is that we are merely borrowing space in someone else’s home: they pay the bills, clean the space, and decide the rules that guests must follow; it’s their place, we don’t have any right to dictate them how to keep it. The only way to have absolute freedom regarding the content you can consume would be to build your own place, I.E., your own server, which as the analogy implies isn’t the easiest task, and requires some means and knowledge.
In the case of your instance, the admin has decided to let the guests decide on the modalities of housekeeping. A significant amount of people have made their wish known, and aren’t satisfied by putting a folding screen in front of their problem. Like it or not, on an instance ruled by its users, that’s something that will need to be formally addressed at some point.
I’m not necessarily calling them psy ops (because we all know that corporations are too wholesome to do anything so sneaky). But I am 100% saying that they play into the hands of meta and google etc.
That we indeed know. But at their level, I’d be surprised if they saw Lemmy as enough of a threat to try undermining it. Investing the place however is totally plausible, in case there’s at term something to gain…
You still have to convince me there’s any kind of conspiracy going though.
Did you read about meta reaching out to the Mastodon folks, seeking to host a private talk?
Hence way I mentioned investing the place (so the fediverse at large) in hope of making a profit, yes.
Do you think Google saw XMPP as a threat?
Edit: “threat” isn’t the right word. I should have said “potential revenue stream.” And once something is a (potential) revenue stream, a business will try to maximize that revenue. Just look at what reddit is doing with its API…
I don’t know the topic enough to answer that question, I’m afraid. And after a cursory check, I didn’t come across mentions of Google sending its goons to fragment the network; I don’t see the connection with “BigSocial”, to reuse the terms of OP, (allegedly) conspiring against Lemmy/being rejoiced by the dissensions between users.
Google talk used XMPP when it was launched, but they eventually dropped support. I don’t think they were intentionally trying to harm XMPP, I think they saw an opportunity to launch a product with a pre-established user base, then later determined they’d have a larger market share if they dropped XMPP (because it would force people to switch to Google Talk to keep taking to their friends).
Upper leadership (eg. CEO) at these large corporations normally have a “fiduciary duty” to the share holders to maximize profits, which is a legal obligation. They can be sued for “fiduciary neglect” if they intentionally make decisions that prioritize something other than shareholder profits.