• Historical_Owl_1635@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    People often say to me that it’s great players can now open up about their struggles.

    Can they really? I certainly wouldn’t encourage it

    I’d honestly say the exact same about mental health. When a player opens up everybody will praise them for their bravery and honesty in the moment.

    But the minute a discussion about something like being captain/crucial penalties comes up you can guarantee they’ll be a lot of people questioning wether they’re mentally strong enough.

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      10 months ago

      People laughed about Paul Mcgrath saying he’s won MOTM whilst drunk and he’s talking about it deadly serious about what a serious issue he had.

      He was suicidal and played games with bandages on his wrists from slitting them.

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      10 months ago

      You can also say the same about any support for equality. Look at Hendo, shit that he went to Saudi which somewhat goes against his support, but at least he came out and talked about stuff in the first place, it doesn’t remove the fact that he supports lgbtq+ equality, isn’t homophobic, and is inclusive. There’s countless high profile players who have never made a statement either way on lgbtq+ equality etc and could just be homophobic, they don’t get jumped on for going to Saudi though. I’d rather have people speaking in the first place and for that reason I’ll always defend Hendo (somewhat, the way he’s dealt with it has been a bit shit).

      But to get to the point no young players going to look at this and think, yeah it’s really worth speaking up for what I believe in, incase it goes south. And that’s all because of how everyone has treated Jordan.

    • MoRi86@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      That is mental health in general. A company will often hire a person with mental health problems to be seen as inclusive but as soon as they realise that PTSD and BPD are not some random letters but genuine diagnoseses that greatly affect their new emplyee they want nothing to with you :/

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    10 months ago

    should be noted that most advertisers routinely do this in anything they’re involved in

  • HomersAnalglands@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    This is a non issue. Gambling corporations dont want customers or people who are gambling addicts, they are known as problem gamblers. Thereputable companies will you show the slightest concern that you might be an addict limit your account instantly or shut it down. Caulker with a history of being an gambling addict will never have a job with a reputable gambling company. I have a friend who was declined a job at bet365 as well because his account there had been shut down due to responsible gaming concerns…

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      10 months ago

      It’s hilarious that you think the gambling companies actually care about their customers. Absolutely none of the ‘protection’ protocols they have in place would exist if it was up to them. They run adverts and allow you to limit yourself so they can say to anyone complaining that they do actually care, look at what we are doing. You’ve literally got a story here about them blocking a former addict from appearing on TV because they are scared. Yet you think it’s a non issue, yikes.

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      10 months ago

      He wouldn’t be taking a job at a gambling company though.

      He’d be talking about football on a show sponsored by a gambling company.

      Bet365 haven’t blocked his employment with a third party because they’re responsibly worried he’ll lose his money. He can do that with, or without, that particular employment.

      They blocked it because it would be allowing reality to fly too close to the lie.

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    10 months ago

    Gambling companies are parasites. They have a long history of trying to enticing people into betting, even giving them incentives with physical goods and extra free bets despite being fully aware they’re an addict.

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      10 months ago

      Back during covid with nothing to do, I was betting more than usual, nothing crazy but far more active than I’d been in years. 365 sent me a message in site about my activity basically a check in to make sure I know the warning signs of addiction as I was on the site quite a bit.

      Less than 30 seconds after that message they gave me a £5 free bet so I could continue gambling…

    • Adiwantstobattle@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Basketball is my favorite sport, and one day I was watching a game, when I saw a Fanduel commercial that said people who placed a bet could get 3 months of league pass after placing their first bet or something along those lines. I was honestly tempted to do it just because having league pass would beat the hassle of always needing to find a stream, but it hit me while I was watching that that is EXACTLY how people become problem gamblers. They entice you with something that you want outside of gambling, and once you start, you can’t stop. It’s been getting worse and worse, and it seems like it’s here to stay; NBA players can even invest in betting companies, it’s pushed in every single commercial, and it’s inescapable regardless of sport, Football, Basketball, American Football, etc. Gambling is super predatory, and I don’t trust it at all.

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      10 months ago

      just pure extraction, has no tangible benefit to anyone apart from the bookies

    • R3dbeardLFC@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      I always rail against betting. I fucking hate it.

      I have a mate who is always trying to get me to “just sign up” cuz this app is giving a free $50 bet and he’ll get a kickback for my registration, and he’ll just give that to me if I want. Or this app does this, etc etc. He’s not losing his home over his betting, he does small prop bets and shit and cashes out when he’s ahead, but it’s still fucking annoying, and clearly a minor addiction for him.

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    10 months ago

    Tbf it’ll only be a matter of time until a new big bad becomes the defacto advertising company. But, fuck this, i imagine it’s soooo hard to talk about addictions and for him to get rebuffed due to a shows sponsor is pretty poor.

    Which show is this anyway? BT?

  • TimingEzaBitch@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    gambling addition is nothing compared to gambling multiplication. Don’t even get me started on gambling exponentiation.

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    10 months ago

    Fuck this, his analysis is great too - seen him on inside spurs and he talks really well, would make a great pundit

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    10 months ago

    May be unpopular opinion but i dont mind sin companies from advertising, as long as they concede that people are able to talk about them in a healthy way.

    Steven Caulker should absolutely be able to talk about gambling addiction while Bet365 is a sponsor, just like an alcoholic or religious person can say they dont drink with Heineken as a sponsor.

    Rejecting something that exists in the world completely is unhealthy. You need to be able to talk about it. So if the rules of the game prevented any right for sin companies to react if somebody says something against them, im all for it.