• Alpha_Jazz@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Well it would just be whoever has spent the most time in the PL. Since you don’t make money from the actual act of promotion

      • therik85@alien.topBEnglish
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        10 months ago

        It would be whoever has spent the most time in the Premiership recently. It wouldn’t surprise me if Luton will end up making more this season than Coventry did in the first 10 seasons up there.

  • NotoriousFregula@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    Tell me what I’m missing:

    I’m counting 58 seasons in Barnsley history between Championship and Second Division.

    3.289 matches equals 56,70 matches per season. How does this add up at all?

  • bjohnsonarch@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Table when organized by Points per Match

    1.553 - Sheffield Un

    1.546 - West Brom

    1.502 - Leeds

    1.500 - Middlesbrough

    1.492 - Leicester

    1.488 - Birmingham

    1.474 - Wolves

    1.450 - Norwich

    1.442 - Blackburn

    1.438 - Burnley

    1.430 - Derby

    1.418 - Fulham

    1.417 - Preston NE

    1.402 - Sheffield W

    1.396 - Stoke

    1.385 - Cardiff

    1.367 - Nottingham F

    1.352 - Blackpool

    1.340 - Millwall

    1.316 - Hull

    1.308 - Charlton

    1.306 - Bristol

    1.301 - Grimsby

    1.261 - Barnsley

    • frenchbud@alien.topBEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Thanks I was here for that, considering the difference in games played that should be the default sorting value if you want to make an all-time table that means something

      • BrotherSeamus@alien.topBEnglish
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        10 months ago

        that should be the default sorting value

        That would be a totally different chart. Spurs and the Manchester teams would be sorted to the top on far fewer matches played.

        • frenchbud@alien.topBEnglish
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          10 months ago

          Yeah true, making them the all-time better championship sides, on average per match. But that doesn’t make much sense, so set a minimum of matches played and you’re good

      • bjohnsonarch@alien.topBEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        Plus, the one major caveat I would add to both charts is that the English Football League changed to the 3-point win scheme in 1981-1982 season, so I have no idea how that would influence the points per game calculation to make a true all-time table. OP’s table, provided from the link in this post, calculates the points total using the 3-point scheme.

  • homity3_14@alien.topBEnglish
    1·
    10 months ago

    I read somewhere that Barnsley were the team that had played most second-flight seasons but I didn’t realise how far ahead they were - over 600 games more than Hull in second.

      • marktandem@alien.topBEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        All 3 of those other Burton teams are part of the lineage of Albion. Swifts and Wanderers joined to form Burton United, which later became a part of Albion.

      • onthelongrun@alien.topBEnglish
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        10 months ago

        I’m looking at win % in a table like this. Everton’s is 45.8%

        Only 3 teams have a win % above 50. They are

        • Arsenal 50.5%
        • Liverpool 56.8%
        • Manchester City 50.3% (who have by far the most games played of the 3)

        Of the rest of the notable clubs,

        • United’s is 49.7%
        • Chelsea’s is 48.8%
        • Newcastle’s is 47.4%
        • West Ham’s is 44.0%
        • Leeds is 41.5%
        • Spurs is 46.5%
        • Aston Villa’s is 42.7%

        For context

        • Leicester’s is 41.2% having played the 3rd most games all time in the 2nd division
        • Sheffield United is 43.1%
        • Birmingham City is 41.3%
        • West Brom is 43.0%
        • Ipswich is 40.8%
        • Sunderland’s is 42.8%
      • Zeta-Omega@alien.topBEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        Well the only way is up, or of course you can be taken by shadow and flame and fall into the conference.

      • Appropriate-Map-3652@alien.topBEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        Tbh you should have gone up over Wednesday, you were the much better team in the playoff final.

        If nothing else I can’t imagine you’d have been any worse than they are right now.