• doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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    I guess it depends on how restrictive your parents were with TV access, Millennials born between 1990 and 1995 could have easily seen Married with Children and then Futurama and understood the reference from a young age, but Gen Z wouldn’t be very likely to see Married with Children at all, and I dispute the existence of a Gen Alpha yet because there is no way Gen Z are old enough to have kids with opinions in any sizeable demographic so therefor it isn’t a generational gap.

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      Married With Children would have ended when millennials were somewhere between 16 and 1.

      It doesn’t really matter how strict your parents were with TV. Most millennials weren’t really in the target demographic for it when it was airing; they’d have been more likely to be watching Rugrats, Power Rangers, All That, Dragon Ball Z or whatever if left to their own devices.

      They’d have watched it if it were something their parents watched. I literally never deliberately turned on Friends or Will And Grace, but since my parents watched them, I saw a bunch of them. Married With Children wasn’t a show my parents followed, though, so the Futurama episode would have gone over my head.

      It really seems like a reference aimed mostly at the oldest millennials, gen X, and boomers.

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        I tell you what, I didn’t exactly stick to age appropriate television from a young age. I could be an outlier, I guess.

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      I’m only 27, not American and I had never heard of married with children before. I can remember watching fresh Prince of Bel air and friends (repeats) and some other shows. Plus I’m on the oldest end of gen z and if I’d had a kid at 16/17 then they’d certainly be old enough to have opinions.

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        They’d be 10 so probably not opinions that matter, no. But if you were born in 1995 then I don’t think your parents were millennials, were they?

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      I am refiering to generation alpha. (2010 on since there is not really an agreed on date.)

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        To be Gen Alpha you must be the child of Gen Z who had to be the child of Millennials.

        So if you agree that a millennial was born in 1980 and had kids at 18 who then had a kid at 18 then a Gen Alpha would be like 6 or 7 years old maximum.

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            Listen if there is no generational gap between you and boomers, then you’re just a Gen X, mate. One generation to the next, no skipping.

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                Do you know what the word Generation means? Literally in no other context is it defined that way, but you’re using Wikipedia as a source so clearly I don’t expect you to have any learning capacity at this point. Maybe you really are Gen Alpha at your mommy’s tablet.

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                  Ok, I think this is just trolling at this point. No way someone can make this argument in good faith AND throw out that weak of an insult.

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                    Its like its totally impossible for a word to mean 2 slightly different things is different contexts.

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                    I think it was a banger insult, just enough not to seem unreasonable. If I wanted to alienate the opposition then discussion would very quickly become meaningless, like your comment for example: completely devoid of any relevant context, only an attack on my person.

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                  I can’t believe you’re this confident about something so basic and somehow you’re wrong

                  Also, what, can’t win an argument without infantilizing your opponent? I mean it’s clear you know nothing about this topic and just assume you can “debate” about it using google or whatever, ironic coming from the guy who discounts wikipedia. That’s better than anything you’d know by a good margin anyways.

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                  generation noun gen·​er·​a·​tion ˌje-nə-ˈrā-shən

                  1 a : a body of living beings constituting a single step in the line of descent from an ancestor

                  b : a group of individuals born and living contemporaneously

                  c : a group of individuals having contemporaneously a status (such as that of students in a school) which each one holds only for a limited period

                  d: a type or class of objects usually developed from an earlier type

                  Socially, named generations like millennials use definition 1b, because some people are grandparents at age 30, and others don’t become grandparents til they’re 80.

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                    I think those definitions pretty well support my argument, honestly.

                    While the generations align less and less over time in my definition, it on average stays very accurate since most human life cycles align pretty closely, especially considering female fertility usually starts at puberty (but is very rarely utilized in developed nations before 18) and declines between ages 30 and 50. I still think it’s a really weak definition if you give out arbitrary date ranges which inevitably leads to random smaller generational definitions and too many varying opinions on what generation starts or ends where.

                    Nobody is becoming a grandparent at 30 unless they had kids at an age that depicts failure of a society, for example age 15 and their kids had kids at 15, which is very very far from average or even a sizeable demographic unless you’re a family of 16th century nobles.

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          Yes, as I have nephews that are gen alpha, that is how that works. You have kids now that are not gen Z and are around 10 that never knew MWC. Just because someone is young does not invalidate their status as people (yet, don’t give them any ideas).

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            The problem is there are people in the comments who seem to think they’re Gen Alpha, Millennial, or Gen Z without realizing they skipped generations in their calculation.

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              Yes and yet you are the only person that seems to think this is how generations work, that somehow you can skip at all.

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                  Wait, no. You are the one that thinks you can skip!

                  As in the whole concept of skipping generations is insane in this context.

                  You almost got me there.

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                    I’m saying it goes in sequence, that it can’t go from Gen X > Gen Z without a Millennial intermediary. Therefor I am in fact the one saying there is no skipping.