Botafogo really bottling it at the end there, 4 loses and a draw for their last 5 games, ouch.
Botafogo gave up a 16 point lead, a streak of like 18 matches unbeaten across all competitions (and I think another streak as locals) and lost 3 key matches back to back (one in a clásico against Vasco). It’s actually maddening how badly they’re fucking up this season
When I saw this post I thought “huh close lead? But Botafogo had an impossibly big lead how can it be close?”
14 point lead*
The funny thing is that they are just not simply “losing”. They are losing in the most unbelievable way.
They lost a game where they had a 3-0 lead last week. And yesterday they lost a game they were leading by 3-1… I simply cant believe this choke!!!
So hard to watch!
Most competetive league in the world and it’s not even debatable
One of the best systems too. Everyone’s fighting for something over there
I followed the league a bit when I studied in Brazil and ever since I occasionally take a look at the table and each season it is a different team being at the top or bottom. Feels like almost anyone can win or relegate.
The fact that continental spots + relegation account for the majority of the table makes this league insanely tense, Everyone always has something to play for.
Top 5 league in the world and I’m tired of pretending it’s not
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a league leader with under 60 points after GW 32 for division with 20 teams. I don’t know if that’s good or bad still
WWWWW
FICA SUAREZ
So many teams who can win the title, the ending’s gonna be crazy
And also so many teams with chances of relegation, its insane.
Worth noting that number 8 (fluminense) was libertadores winner, number 11 (fortaleza) sulamericana finalist and number 14 (inter) was almost libertadores finalist being send out by fluminense in the last minutes of the semi finals. Grêmio was in serie B last year but with the power of Suarez and futevôlei are managing to fight for the title. The last time botafogo won the league was in 95, and they were 13 points clear mid season. This league is truly amazing
I gotta watch it more since it’s on paramount plus
I saw Botafogo vs Fluminese live a few weeks ago and WOW Bota dominated and were on a different level, how they are bottling this is crazy
Fluminense didn’t really have their minds on this game though. They have been on very lousy form in the league, totally focused on winning Libertadores (and, well, it worked)
Best league in the world!
My idolo Ramon Diaz pulling the impossible with Vasco, his magia Cuyana is insanely strong.
Tbf Vasco squad improved drastically on the midseason window and they were definitely underperforming before. But Díaz is doing very well!
I see their score since Payet arrived is 6-3-3 so sort of a great escape, but looking at the stats he hasn’t been too impactful
Vegetti was their most impactful signing of the season, their season completely turned around when they got a number 9 capable of scoring.
It was actually quite impressive how many goals they missed every game lmao
Barbieri should’ve been jailed for what he did to Vasco in the first half of the tournament, currently Vasco is top4 in the 2nd half table, but the first half was so fucking awful that if Ramon Diaz were there before i belive they would be fighting for a Libertadores spot with Athletico or at the Very least eating some popcorn with Flu and São Paulo
If Botafogo bottle this, I will understand if some fans never watch football again.
Our biggest lead when nobody had a game in hand was 8 points and we were still extremely disappointed. I can’t imagine how botafogo fans will recover if they really do fumble it.
Arsenal’s case is significantly less worse than Botafogo’s.
Arsenal were being chased by City, who are a Premier League points machine. So Arsenal’s margin for error was 0.
Botafogo is losing a championship that “nobody” wants to win. Everyone who is in contention for the title has had their crisis and gone a few rounds without a win. One example is Atlético Mineiro, who are 5 points behind Botafogo and have gone 10 games without a win in one part of the league.
Palmeiras also went four games without a win after being eliminated from the Libertadores. Flamengo were a mess under Sampaoli…
So yeah…
Holy fuck that last 5 looks brutal.
If? It’s already gone…
Ffs, honestly I’m still bitter over 4 matches
Conceding near the end against Bragantino - 3x3
The defensive issues against Corinthians and the neglected clear penalty near the end - 4x4
Two 1x2 losses after scoring the first goal against Santos and Atlético PR
Well, there’s a reason we’re the fourth worst defense…
As a Grêmio fan you should just be thankful you are not playing Série B this year.
My guy…
Atlético Mineiro lost to Cruzeiro, Vasco and Coritiba at home. And drew twice with América Mineiro (once after taking a 2-0 lead).
My sanity is gone.
This title race and relegation battle is INSANE.
Bragantino have Botafogo and Flamengo back to back, two crazy games.
How do people feel about RB Bragantino in Brazil? Do they hate them like Leipzig in Germany or not really care?
much rather them win it than Palmeiras or Flamengo
Indiference is the right word, but as we hate the rivals more i think neutrals would pick them to win the title race as they aren’t great rivals for anyone
Our clubs are so poorly managed that we think RB can set a good example on how to do things correctly. We don’t really care about they being an artificial team, we have more important issues to deal with, like very bad football pitches.
Most people feels indifference mostly because Bragantino is from a City with 170k people and has a very small amount of fans, some people call them an “artificial team”, but the only thing they really changed was the team’s logo and added “red bull” in front of the name, apart from that it’s the same team, in the same city and stadium and the same fans… they just just a decent management now.
Yes, the difference between Leipzig and Bragantino is that Bragantino had some history in Brazilian football before Red Bull.
Bragantino had already won 1 Série B title in 1989, 1 Campeonato Paulista title in 1990 and was runner-up in the Brasileirão in 1991.
This reduces the feeling of an artificial team.
Fun fact to foreigners: Red Bull tried to create a team from scratch in Brazil called Red Bull Brasil. It didn’t make it out of the bottom divisions hahaha. Brazilian football is ruthless.
Red Bull Brasil is weird because they had some good campaigns in the Paulistão, which is a pretty difficult tournament, but they were trash in National Divisions. Also, it still exists, but it’s called Red Bull Bragantino II now.
The lower national divisions of the Brazilian championship are some of the hardest tournaments around: you got to travel thousands of kilometers to cities that have no airports, play in absolutely terrible stadiums in awful heat… and while in Europe you would expect the competition to be awful, as the clubs have no money, you got to remember Brazil forms a metric ton of players.
Campeonato Paulista is difficult, but there was a time (I don’t know if it’s changed) when the rules were crazy and could cause some distortions in the perception of teams’ strength.
From my part, indifferent. I really dont care about them, but id much rather having them as champions, than botafogo or palmeiras.
I already accepted that this will be another title for Flamengo, I just hope Palmeiras manages to get a G4 finish.
Is 36 year old Suarez playing with 1 knee going to carry a newly promoted team to the title?
MENTAL.