Listen, i’m not saying his time isn’t coming to an end at the elite level. But one poor season in 23 years does not call for some of the revisionism occurring here lately. Arguably, the defences he’s still producing (2022, 2021, 2020) have kept the Patriots from rebuilding properly. It isn’t easy in this league to escape from 8-8 hell without a franchise QB.
“Brady made him”. You can use whatever stat you want here, but let’s use the most basic one. Points allowed per game. Of course there are influences here. Time of possession, special teams, ability to generate turnovers. But at its most basic level this is what determines the result of a game.
Brady had 20 seasons as a Patriot. He had a top 10 defence in 17 of them. In 3 super bowl victories, the Patriots played 3 of the top 15 offences in NFL history. 01 Rams, 16 Falcons and 18 Rams. 17 points, 22 points(pick six), 3 points. Even throw the record breaking 04 Colts in there, 3 pts. If we change to PTS per drive, he still has 15 top 10 defences!
Manning had 4, Rodgers had 3, Brees had 2. All three had great ball security and time of possession.
Is Brady the GOAT, yes. His consistency in clutch moments puts him ahead of the likes of Peyton and Rodgers. Did he make Bill the greatest defensive mind in history, no!
Brady record when scoring 20+in the playoffs: 32-4. Rodgers is 12-9 in this statistic for a direct comparison.
Average finish in points per drive among notable QBs
Brady: 9th
Rivers: 15th
Peyton: 18th
Rodgers: 18th
Brees: 20th
Mahomes: 20th
And we are trying to pretend Bill didn’t give Brady a significant advantage over his peers? Another 2 super bowls as a DC.
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Remember when the Pats blocked a dolphins kick and everyone overreacted the other way and said he had revolutionized special teams? Shits embarrassing both ways haha
I think that the Patriots should keep him until he dies. It will help the rest of the league.
People were shitting on Shula his last few years. People just like to minimize coaches accomplishments if the team feels sluggish or not living up to their potential. In the case of the Pats they hitched their fortunes to a subpar QB and subpar WRs.
I’m just salty he whooped our ass for so long so yes, I’m hating on him
Yeah dude is clearly a defensive genius, drafted Brady, and put together some teams that could actually survive without Brady if he was injured or suspended. Maybe the league just became to qb centric he hasn’t been able to draft one
One thing I don’t see talked about enough - think about where the Pats have been drafting - towards the end of rounds - for 20 years. It’s insane to build such a consistently competitive team when you are rarely getting a top 20 pick for so long
Just take it from the fans of teams that had to play him every single year, twice a year. He’s a defensive mastermind, who got fairly lucky getting a QB like Brady, but probably would’ve been a very successful coach even without him. Together they were simply unfair
Bill is the GOAT, end of discussion.
he had ONE good season in 4 since Tb12 left, what are you talking about
I’m not a Belichick fan, but this is true.
Brady’s success came with playing well with good defenses. His move to TB was gain skill WR and an elite Defense.
8 rings
It’s okay man Bill dominated the NFL for 20+ years. People will hate him. It’s not that deep
One poor season in 23 years
I’m so confused…
The Pats were 3rd in their division in 2020 and 2022, and then made the playoffs by the skin of their teeth in 2021 (where they were blown out by the Bills).
Every season without Brady has been poor, that’s the whole point.
Where are you getting “one poor season” from?