Vikings fan here, don’t follow the Raiders too closely.

I’ve been reading threads about Josh McDaniels for a while now and most threads are just piling on, not really mentioning specifically why he was a bad coach.

I decided to pull up a post game victory speech on YouTube and he just doesn’t seem that likable of a guy. I think being likable is a big part of being a coach, because players have to want to win for you.

Does that sum up why he was a bad coach? Or is there even more to it than that?

To be fair, the team didn’t underperform that badly this year. If you look at the schedule, the only terrible game was the Bears game. Other than that, they beat the teams they were supposed to beat and lost to the teams they were supposed to lose to.

So what’s the official one-paragraph summary on Josh McDaniels tenure with the Raiders and why he was bad?

  • Healthy-Criticism116@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Couldn’t score 20 points with a 105 million dollar offense.

    Arrogance/lack of accountability.

    Inability to connect with players.

    Inability to mold his scheme around his players. Little to no compromise to his scheme.

    truly can’t think of any pros for Mcvisor

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    11 months ago

    He got spoiled with a hall of fame coach and best of all time QB as a glorified offensive analyst. He rode that wave into multiple unsuccessful “real” coaching positions that weren’t managed by Bill. He admits on record he is terrible socially and with people (and this a team of people AND players). He is credited with “knowing football”, but unless you can pair that with the other numerous factors it takes to manage a team you are useless outside of an analyst position. He rode his hype and high into fucking the broncos (not mad) and the Raiders (mad) as a HC.

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    11 months ago

    You pretty much hit the nail on the head, terrible leader, made it feel like work instead of letting the guys have fun, which wore down the morale and that compounded the frustration when they kept losing. Tack on the fact that he shit the bed with the Carr situation and had the bright idea of trying to fix it with Jimmy G, and then acting like a total beta male bitch when the team finally called him on his shit, and you have yourself a fired head coach that should have never been hired in the first place.

    Edit: also, saying that they lost to the teams they should have shows that you didn’t watch the games, aside from the Buffalo game, the other teams were basically trying to give the game away (Steelers, Lions) and then you lay a colossal fucking egg by choosing to start Brian Hoyer against the bears. If you’re just looking at box scores, it doesn’t tell the whole story of just how fucking terrible he was. Terrible clock management, unaware playcalling in critical moments in games, forcing his oline and running game into a power scheme when they didn’t have the personnel, it’s just way more shit than what you’d see on the surface

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    11 months ago

    He thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. He’s not humble. He doesn’t give enough respect.

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    11 months ago

    In addition to being a complete fraud as an “offensive genius” you are correct that he is a thoroughly disrespectful person who threw all of his players under the bus before taking any responsibility for his poor coaching.

    McD isn’t just a terrible coach, he’s a terrible human being.

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    11 months ago

    Aside from likeability, he made strategically horrible play calls and time management decisions on numerous occasions through the past 2 seasons…he’s not a good HC.

    He loaded the team with a lot of washed up or useless guys because they were patriots: jimmy G, brandon Bolden, the new long snapper when we had a good one at the same price, Brian hoyer, Philip dorsett, chandler jones, Justin Herron, Jakob Johnson (he’s not a good FB, we already HAD a good FB before mcdaniels…). We’ll probably eat $100M in lost team money because of the players and coaches contracts that will be null after this season

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    11 months ago

    He replaced Carr with an even worse Vet QB

    Oh and he was a terrible leader

    The Legend of Josh McDaniels is one where the outrage outpaces his actions, but at least for him words speak louder

    Just an odd fella

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    11 months ago

    His biggest flaws are that he is grating to most people, he’s an egomaniac who refuses to concede when he is wrong, and he is a control freak who wants to be in charge of everything. He doesn’t learn from his mistakes, and is still largely coaching the exact same way he did 15 years ago. He is also one of the worst talent evaluators who has ever been given GM duties in NFL history. Like almost every personnel decision he has ever made has been the opposite of what he should’ve done. All of this combines to create a guy who demands to have the ability to destroy your team, will stop at nothing to destroy your team, and then will blame everyone but himself while he is standing in the rubble of what was once your team.

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    11 months ago

    He does things like not go for points at the end of halves while losing and kicking off the next half. Or kicking a FG down 8 in the red zone with 3 min left.

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    11 months ago

    On top of his horrible personality and game management, he was an offensive head coach leading and calling the plays for an offense that couldn’t score over 20 points in a single game this season. And he brought in Jimmy G and gave him a contract and the guy looked worse than most backups.