I came across a post that talked about this app. It’s an app designed in the name of “female empowerment” by letting women endorse other guys they deem to be good to their other single friends.
And the guys on the app? They’re immediately told to be on their “best behaviour” and if they do so, they’ll earn rewards and points. This bit I find very condescending and not to mention misandric as it doesn’t mention any toxic behaviour that women do. It also gives off the vibes of the “Toronto Unhinged list” or “Are we dating the same guy.” list as well.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hulah You can check it out yourselves here.
Dating is already hard enough for men out there, and this app will only make it needlessly harder. I wouldn’t be surprised if this app attracts only the feminist types as they’re the ones screeching about safety (Note: due to the expectation of men to initiate most things in dating and sometimes resorting to toxic methods to do so, I can understand women’s need to be safe in these interactions especially if a man can’t handle rejection, but I think the scale of safety is being inflated when you have apps or list like these.)
What are your thoughts on it? Do you think this app is a great idea to keep women safe or is it just another discriminatory practice against men and males?
@Mshuser I agree that the app absolutely walks the line on being condescending and misandrist, but this is crap:
The vocal feminists may be the only ones “screeching” about safety, but ALL women are thinking about safety, all the time. The world is just inherently not as safe for women, even in first world countries. Surely you don’t deny that. We should be screeching about safety too.
I think this app could definitely fill a need for women to feel safe when it comes to dating. It’s a huge concern (for us, as well…sexually liberated women are a good thing for men, and safety is the #1 thing preventing that). But again, it’s very easy to slip into pandering to women and condescending to men, and unless they have a stellar PR/marketing team I doubt they can walk that line while staying respectful to all parties.
@Aesthesiaphilia women think about safety all the time due to the paranoia they’ve been fed about men growing up. The tin men actually has a post about this that you can check out.
But yea when it comes to safety, generally speaking, most stats on crime incidents are less than 1% in the grand scheme of things. Even in those statistics, men are more likely to be killed than women on average (even if by other men) but they also deal with shame and humiliation if they open up about being abused by their gf/wives or even seen as the perpetrator, false allegations, etc. When you look at it this way, the world isn’t inherently safe for us even if we are more physically developed. But let’s just say the world isn’t safe for anyone ever.
Another reason to point out that while teaching women to be very cautious of men, we’re also teaching men that they have to make the first move all the time and if they don’t continuously take action then they won’t see any success (this treatment gets emphasized mostly by actions than words). Men then resort to pua/redpill that teaches them strategies and guess what? Now you have to deal with men who will approach you anytime anywhere and due to what you’ve been fed about men coupled with some not so pleasant experiences with a few men, the whole interactions become uncomfortable.
Also many of these movements will tell men to take questionable actions in the name of “masculinity”, resulting in them stopping you mid-day, persisting with you, saying outlandish things etc. All of this comes from the expectation we still have of men to take initiative and be the one driving the interaction. If we actively started telling society not to put this role to men by default, none of this would be happening.
But most men out there aren’t even doing the things I’ve described. The kind of men who are? Puas and psychopathic men (the types of men who don’t or learned not to give af about this.)
This setup creates a self-fulfilling prophecy thats just gonna make things uncomfortable for both parties and only the thoughtless and inconsiderate would be the ones to succeed here.
Idk much about first world countries as I’m often told what it’s like over there from a feminist lense, but now that I question the ideology, I’m now questioning how much we’re told about them are actually true. I’ll be doing some research here.
@Mshuser
I blame the recent obsession with true crime. “You are what you eat” applies to media consumption habits, too. If you spend all evening watching Fox News, you’ll think drag queens are coming after your kids. If you listen to podcasts about brutal, out-of-the-blue murders as a form of entertainment, you’ll see an axe-killer in every shadow.
These people form their worldviews based on these freak tragedies rather than the statistics that show people are far more likely to experience violence at the hands of someone they know than a stranger.
@rikersbeard This would be more applicable to news. While I do see your point, I think anyone who watches fictional media and looks to that as an example has to be pretty susceptible. I don’t think it takes that much smarts to not believe everything you see on media, especially TV shows. Don’t get me wrong, the media does play a role in forming the perception of certain groups and demographics, but we need to get clear on the scale of it. If they watch TV shows about a certain group and develop fear from that, then I think the scale is uneseccarily high and need to be brought down.