I saw some other servers have megathreads so following suit
Edit: as the situation progresses some live cams may go down
I post Telegram links because that’s the social media platform many Russians use
Vlad must be pissed that he’s being stressed the fuck out during the 3 day no poop challenge. It’s hard to keep the backdoor sealed when you’re stressed out.
He’s Vladimir Putin, not Vladimir Pupin.
I love how is this the first big meme post reddit migration.
Great reddit humor. Totally worthy of 70 upvotes, lol.
💩Thanks for the poop kind stranger
Ukraine got back territory from the Russians they haven’t had since 2014!
For size comparison, Rostov to Elets is about the same distance as Boston to DC, or Marseilles to Paris.
https://www.bbc.com/russian/live/news-65849028?
Vladimir Putin made an appeal where he called Prigozhin’s rebellion a betrayal and a stab in the back. He did not mention the name of the founder of Wagner PMC
The day before, Prigozhin accused the Russian military leadership of rocket attacks on his Wagner PMC camps in the rear and killing his militants. After Putin’s appeal, he said that the president was “deeply mistaken”
There is no independent confirmation of Prigozhin’s accusations, the Ministry of Defense denies everything. FSB opened a criminal case on incitement to armed rebellion
Mercenaries from PMC “Wagner” led by Yevgeny
Prigozhin blocked military facilities in Rostov and Voronezh
The Armed Forces of Ukraine launched a missile attack on the occupied Genichesk, from which more than 100 km to the front lineThis is going to give Ukraine a lot of breathing room. Not only does it take Wagner Group out of the picture, but Putin is going to bed to devote already thinly stretched military resources to try and contain a coup.
Long-term, this could be troubling. As fascist as Putin is, Prigozhin is a straight up Nazi. Russia somehow pushing even further to the right is a scary thought. Hopefully Prigozhin and Putin soften each other up enough to allow more progressive elements to consolidate power, but I’m not holding my breath.
I hope the infight between Putin and Prigozhin is nasty enough that the Freedom of Russia Legion and Russian Volunteer Corps can give them both a run for their money.
Your scenario does not contemplate the crippled economy, with the oil spigot to Europe turned way down, as well as all other continuing sanctions and embargos, which is turning russia into an economic vassal of Beijing as we speak.
Webcam in Russia
Just had a quick skim and it looks like all the street webcams in Moscow are down.
Huh works for me
I can still see Moscow street cams.
But I’m guessing internet is going down anywhere near PMC positions, since I haven’t seen any new wagner footage in a while.
What’s up with the big brother messages in Moscow?
I like the 1984 reference, feels very accurate.
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-66006142
The mayor of Moscow, Sergei Sobyanin, has just put out a statement on Telegram announcing that “a counter-terrorist operation regime has been declared in Moscow” and that Monday will be a “non-working day” to “minimise risks”.
This has to be a pretty legit threat to make the public aware. They usually keep people in the dark until after the fallout from something.
I’d give it 50/50 they actually put up resistance or roll over. You can counter terrorist all you want until the terrorists are seasoned mercenaries with tanks knocking at the door
Looks like fighting has or is about to start in Rostov. Chechen troops (around 200?) Are entering the city and starting to clash with Wagner troops.
DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A MACHINE TRANSLATION OF AN UNVERIFIED TELEGRAM POST.
https://t.me/sotaproject/61753?single
https://t.me/sotaproject/61752?single
Shots rang out in Rostov-on-Don, according to RIA Novosti and local telegram channels.
According to Beware, the News, this is how the Wagner PMC drives away civilians from the streets, because the Akhmat unit enters the city.
Video: “Caution, news”, “RIA Novosti”
Edit: Disclaimer added.
So who we cheering for on this one? I mean if they could destroy each other that’s ideal. Ukraine wins by confusion on the Russian side but I can’t imagine Prigozhin is better than Putin. Seems like trading same for same.
Neither, Wagner is a Nazi. Considering Russia has the largest stockpile of nukes this is a terrible situation
Yep. We’re entering dicey waters.
Even if the coup fails, this weakens the Kremlin, and increases the likelihood of Russia descending into civil war like Libya.
But as you say, Russia has 40,000 nukes.
No, Russia has 6000 nukes. Only 1700 are actually ready to deploy, the rest are just sitting in storage.
And given the rampant corruption that has rotted Russia’s military out, I wouldn’t be surprised if most of them don’t even work. Nuclear weapon maintenance is a great thing to skim money out of since nobody’s expecting the nukes to actually be used.
Considering all we read last year about the deplorable condition of transport vehicles, medicine supplies, soldier equipment and food that were in storage until last year - due to the money not quite making it all the way down the chain throughout the years - I think it’s pretty much a given.
I’m just cheering on for more Russian infighting. The Citizens of Russia have sooooo much work to do to fix their shit country. There’s pretty much no good outcome for them in the short-term. But this could be great for Ukraine in the short-run, so that’s the best we can hope for imho.
If anything, if this somehow speeds up an end to the war that could be a net positive for everyone. Like Ukraine, Russia cannot move forward in any real way until the war is concluded.
They are the same thing and there is no difference between them. Both are ruthless and barbaric. Nothing changes for Ukraine except for a brief opportunity to strike while the russians are in confusion.
You may be laughing now, but give it time and you might not be.
https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1672658370224873474
Prigozhin said to avoid bloodshed he is turning colums around
IMHO not the smartest move of Prigozyhin to stop now and close a deal. There are no guarantees that Putin won’t stab him in the back as soon as he leaves Moscow. Why would he tolerate such behavior? The only thing Prigozyhin can do is push through.
I’ve heard conflicting reports on the truth of him saying he wants to make a deal. Seems it’s a bit uncertain right now.
DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A MACHINE TRANSLATION OF AN UNVERIFIED TELEGRAM POST.
⚡️⚡⚡️ Message from the press service of the President of the Republic of Belarus.
This morning, Russian President Vladimir Putin briefed his Belarusian counterpart on the situation in southern Russia with the private military company Wagner. The heads of state agreed on joint actions.
As a follow-up to the agreements, the President of Belarus, having additionally specified the situation through his own channels, and in agreement with the President of Russia, held talks with the head of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin.
Negotiations continued throughout the day. As a result, they came to agreements on the inadmissibility of unleashing a bloody massacre on the territory of Russia. Yevgeny Prigozhin accepted the proposal of the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko to stop the movement of armed persons of the Wagner company on the territory of Russia and take further steps to de-escalate tensions.
At the moment, on the table is an absolutely profitable and acceptable option for solving the situation, with security guarantees for the Wagner PMC fighters.
As previously reported, also during today, the President of Belarus held two meetings with the power bloc of the country on this situation.Prigozhin falling back
He and Putin must have made a deal.
I’ll bet this deal won’t last long. Putin and Prigozhen already sicced armies on each other, so the amount of trust between them is zero.
Agreed. An analyst on CNN was comparing it to the internal fighting of a mafia group. These guys don’t like sharing power
Or don’t like it when one steps in the other’s domain, and for a while now they’ve had an internal conflict of interests, which made overstepping inevitable.
I have zero faith in a deal between the two, unless this was all staged which seems unlikely. There is no way they can share power.
The itchy paranoid psycho will definitely not be at rest until the threat of the other itchy paranoid psycho is gone.
