• xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org
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    11 months ago

    They’re related thanks to party politics. The party that talks about trans people in sports also rails against gun control.

    And? Are you not allowed to support certain policies of one party and certain policies of another party? Especially if you live in a different country, so you’re not voting for either of them anyway?

    In most sports, there is no such thing as “men’s” sports. You are allowed to participate no matter what you were born as and what you identify as. So why not just go there and leave women’s sports, which are explicitly created to make it possible to compete well without having been born with a male body, alone?

    That said, I agree with you regaiding chess (which should not be considered a sport at all). There is no inherent advantage of having a male body in chess other than the general tendency of men to have a higher variance in most abilities.

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      Are you not allowed to support certain policies of one party and certain policies of another party? Especially if you live in a different country, so you’re not voting for either of them anyway?

      I never even implied that. You came to a meme about American politics and asked how the two topics were related. Sorry not every meme is custom-made for you.

      In most sports, there is no such thing as “men’s” sports.

      … are you serious? All the most popular sports, running, swimming, weightlifting, football (American and the rest of the world), basketball, hockey, cycling… I decided to check out the Olympic’s website for some other examples and almost all of them have hard gender divisions. A few don’t but the vast majority are divided. Chess has an “open” and a “women’s” division as you describe, but again, it’s because the gap exists thanks only to a dearth of women playing the game in the first place. This is not the case in most sports. Trans women who have undergone sufficient hormone therapy do not have an advantage, and should be allowed to participate.

      why not just go there and leave women’s sports, which are explicitly created to make it possible to compete well without having been born with a male body, alone?

      People rarely just choose what they’re passionate about like that. This is an incredibly flimsy excuse to exclude people from competing in what they actually enjoy doing.

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        11 months ago

        I never even implied that. You came to a meme about American politics and asked how the two topics were related.

        The meme implies that the set of people opposing gun control is identical to the set of people opposed to trans women participating in women’s sports.

        Trans women who have undergone sufficient hormone therapy do not have an advantage

        How do you explain why Lia Thomas went from being mediocre at men’s swimming to getting the by far first place in women’s swimming?

        exclude people from competing in what they actually enjoy doing

        As far as I can tell, nobody is preventing trans women from participating in men’s sports. Though I can’t seem to find any sources, everyone talks about women’s sports. Do you happen to know ofeany?

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          11 months ago

          clearly two years just wasn’t sufficient. that’s a person who trained all the way through a male puberty. but what a surprise, by “fair” you really did mean just preventing participation at all, im truly shocked

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            11 months ago

            Do I have to repeat for the third time that transgender women are not prevented from participating in sports?