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That’s like a cm😭
It’s offside? Like it’s like a millimeter off but offside is an offside it would be a wrong decision if it was given a goal
It is, 1 mm offside is still offside by the rules.
It’s more about the questionable accuracy from this computer rendered image and further more about how the frame to check the offside is decided.
What if they chose a frame too early or late, which could make the difference of being off- or onside in this case.
The original purpose of the offside rule is being completely dismantled.
Maybe a dumb question, but what’s the margin of error for VAR?
For offside none. It’s either off or on. Wenger is trying to change it though so the attackers body have to be completely ahead of the defender to be counted as offside
“Clearly” as he means it is subjective and adds more bias and uncertainty. It’s much better to be like this where it’s a simple >0.
They’re not asking if VAR allows the attacker any leeway in offside calls. They’re asking about the accuracy/precision of the technology in generating these images, the answer to which is that the margin of error hasn’t been publicly disclosed.
Presumably though the error is statistically unbiased. Meaning if it could have been less offsides it could equally have been more offsides so in either case the result should stand unless you think it’s biased and within margin of error.
I hate it. Of course it’s hard to draw that line between when this is ridiculous and when it’s ok, but millimetres like this shouldn’t be regarded as offside imo. Earlier there was a thing when close situations like this were pro-attacking and there was not that much pickiness about it
Everyone who is complaining would you all be happy if he was called onside?
The thing with recreating the players with 3D images instead of using the actual live image is tricky.
If the graphic designer chose generic 3D football boot template #1 instead of #2, the boot design might have been slightly slimmer and therefore not offside.
They shouldnt use 3D modelling to replace players. It’s not accurate. A ball is a ball. Players come in all different shapes and sizes.
I don’t have a problem with this. Offside = offside. Doesn’t matter if it’s with your whole body or with just a fraction of the feet. You (literally) gotta draw the line somewhere.
That said I would get rid of the offside rule altogether. They got rid of it in field hockey years ago, and the game (also because of a handful of other great changes) became better. Football is so ready for some radical new rules.
- Shorter games with a playclock that stops when ball isn’t in play
- Introduction if the selfpass after a free ball
- Unlimetd substitution (you don’t stop the game for a substitution),
- a penalty bench. If a player receives a yellow card he immediately sits 8 minutes on the penalty bench. Team can’t replace him duringthat period (a red card is still a red card.
- Two timeouts per game per team. You can only call for a timeout if your team has the ball on the opponent’s half.
- Smaller teams. Max 6 substitutes on the bench. So Mn City or PSG can’t bring unlimited starsplayers
Offside used to not be a thing but it made football pretty shit because people would just wait near the goal to scoop something up. Football doesn’t need radical new rules. It’s the most popular sport for a reason. However, the sport does need AI/VAR implemented better
I grew up in a time when a goalkeeper could just pick up the ball, anytime. It was horrible! It was a radical change to the game when they changed that rule. If people like you were in charge that would still be a thing. So yes, sometimes things need change. The game has evolved enormously, players have evolved and also fans have evolved (shorter attention span). Why so afraid of change?
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Oh fuck off what is this nonsense 😂😂😂
VAR and the modern offside calls are honestly killing all excitement in football. Make a run into the box basically 50/50 if it’ll stand. Implement the Arsène Wenger rule or just scrap this one atom of the attacker is offside nonsense.
Are they showing the frame where the ball is released too? Madness that.
at that point, that’s not offside, wtf there should be a tolerance margin for millimetric situations
When that Swedish team came up with a way around the offside rule by balancing the ball on the foot - FIFA’s response was something about the spirit of the rule had to be considered.
Is this the spirit of the rule?
He also scored an absolute banger as well, which makes it even sadder
On this call there are a couple of things which I don’t understand:
Offside is starting when the ball gets launched. Nobody is challenging it in this situation which is insane to me. 1 videosequence back or forth changes the entire situation in this context
If you look at the image in reality, kean gets the ball somewhere in midfield but there are a ton of players behind him. How was he even possible in offside???