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    I guess Rozemyne hadn’t considered taking Ferdinand’s collection of books with her? I was kind of thinking that’d be a given. Even just giving her a room with some empty shelves and a promise of some future contributions would’ve been better than nixing the whole idea.

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      Considering that those still belong to Ferdinand and he’s just indefinitely loaning them to her, under the asumption that he’ll never be able to return to Ehrenfest, that would be something of a bad-faith move, especially now that Rozemyne is actively working toward having Ferdinand returned to Ehrenfest.

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    Also obligatory rip Wilfred. I wonder if Charlotte or Melchier will take over as aub considering Willi do will loose Leisagang support once Roz leaves.

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      I’m not so sure about that. At first glance I also expected any chance Wilfried has to become archduke to die with his engagement… but when I thought more about it, I was less and less sure.

      It really comes down to Brunhilde and whether she will be successful in forcing the generational shift… and whether the younger generation Leisegangs truly will be more concerned with the good of their duchy as a whole, than internal faction politics.

      If so, it does look very grim for Wilfried, since with his crimes staining his record, as well as his frequent temper tantrums, I see no chance of him winning against his younger siblings when it comes to being seen as archduke material.

      However if the old guard stays in power, or the new generation falls prey to the lure of internal power struggles, things are quite different…

      The Leisegangs are going so hard after Wilfried, because they want to have Rozemyne as the Aub. But the event that will cancel Rozemyne’s engagement with Wilfried, will also remove her from Ehrenfest entirely and thus any chance to make her Aub, meaning they have to decide between Wilfried, Charlotte and Melchior, all of whom are of Veronica’s hated blood.

      As far as I remember, an Archduchess is expected to marry three archduke candidates, which means the Leisegangs have 0 chance of getting one of their own to marry Charlotte, since their only archduke candidate right now is Bonifatius and that marriage is not going to happen. With a male archduke candidate, they have a good chance to get one of their own faction to become the next Aub’s first or at least second wife and to be able to then have her child as the next Aub after Wilfried or Melchior.

      Ironically enough, Wilfried’s crimes might well be what could make the Leisegangs more inclined to want Wilfried as the archduke over Melchior, if their goal is to have a semi-puppet in the position, whom they can manipulate to their leasure. Right now the Leisegangs are the undisputedly strongest faction in Ehrenfest and the Veronica faction is virtually gone, meaning they don’t have to worry too much about anyone else manipulating their puppet. The crimes that Wilfried committed and their “forgivenes” would give them great levers to keep Wilfried under their thumb, which would not be the case for Melchior.

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        Dang didn’t think of that way. Nice write up.

        Assuming oldguard stays and Leisegangs have control over Wilfred, I kinda what moves his veronica faction retainers will make (if they can make any moves at all).

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          Coinsidering how they raised Wilfried to be a puppet and kept that style of education and manipulation going, even after Veronica was out of the picture… I think his retainers would be delighted just to have Wilfried take on the title - and all the nice priviledges that extends to them - and everything else won’t matter to them. So they’ll pat each other on the backs for what a good job they’ve done… except Lamprecht and Alexis anyway, who will realize the truth and be a whole lot less enthusiastic about the future. Then again, if the Leisegangs can do a good job of controlling WIlfried, this might not actually be too bad of an arrangement. Certainly a whole lot better than to have Detlinde in charge of anything bigger than a broom closet. ^^

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    Ok first of all, RIP siggy being ranked lower than Wilfried.

    Second of all, of course that book request is ridiculous Rozemyne, Ehrenfest is the only duchy capable of printing them after all. Gonna be tough adjusting to that.

    Third: Anastasius definitely acted out of panic back when he semi threatended Rozemyne, dude is rude but he is correct and it does not seem like he is actually hostile. I do think out of all the royals he has the best plan but I think nobody is going to listen to him, something they’ll sorely regret down the line I’m sure. On the topic of royals, someone show Wilfried to Hildebrand because that boy is on the best way to become just like Wilfried. Not good at all and something that will likely cause even more mayhem than Rozemyne’s antics down the line.

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      Ok first of all, RIP siggy being ranked lower than Wilfried.

      It’s kinda sad that Rozemyne has been proposed three times so far and the best one she’s got was “Your duchy is shit. Books.” from Lestilaut. (Not counting the ones that Sylvester said no to before they reached her.)

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        If Lestilaut had argued with her the same way he justified it to his retainers, warning her that the royals might take her otherwise, he’d have been significantly more successful.

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          I’d argue had he done that there would have been a high chance of actually succeeding. Rozemyne is stuborn but she recognizes when a situation doesn’t allow her to do what she wants, being frank with her would have at least brought her to the negotiating table

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            And if Lestilaut had gotten her into ‘merchant mode’, she could’ve easily asked for acceptable terms to bring her Gutenbergs and compensate Ehrenfest. Then they could’ve agreed on something.

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    I loved how long Myne’s rant about not getting her Bookroom kept on going.

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    “Alright, Rozemyne, tell me exactly how you negotiated with the royal family.” He looked unmistakeably angry for some reason.

    His eyes narrowed, he started grinding a finger into my cheek.

    “Pooey…?”
    “No!”

    🤣

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        Also it is rather interesting that his thoughts about how to treat Roz most align with her own wishes, even if he is being rude about it. If possible, take away Grutrissheit from her, let her work to improve Ehrenfest’s PR until she is an adult, and then let her move back to Ehrenfest.

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        Out of all the royals Anastasius has spent the most time around her, makes sense that he is the only one recognizing that speaking politely around her is just wasted effort. Better to speak clearly and not care about how rude it sounds, she doesn’t care. It does however highlight the abnormality of his and Eglantine’s “discussion” with Rozemyne about her becoming Zent. Something is up there making them panic and I wanna know what so badly.

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      I just love how absolutely unapologetic Rozemyne is here, she knows what she did is considered out of line but she simply doesn’t really care because she knows they have nothing over her, she has all the cards in this situation so she made full use of it.

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    One thing I’m surprised about is, that Rozemyne didn’t even seem to register that the Royal Family essentially offers her free access at all times to both the Royal Palace and Royal Academy libraries, the two biggest libraries in the entire country! How comes she complains about not being given a book room, when they give her all-year, everyday access to literally thousands of books, far more than could ever fit into any bookroom or even Ferdinand’s estate?

    When the series started, she was all about reading, not owning books, both on Earth and Yurgenschmidt. Why did that change now to her needing to own books?

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      I think perhaps she’s concerned that she won’t actually have that access. Nor did Sigiswald really address her concern that way, as he might have with a grand gesture that exhibited his awareness of the importance to her.

      Hilarious that other lower-ranked nobles would happily meet this for her and yet Sigiswald considers it beyond his power.

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        You can’t really say that lower ranking duches would happily make this happen for her.

        Both Wilfried and Lestilaut were able to offer bookrooms to Rozemyne, because they already have existing bookrooms, which they would just give control of to her. Bookrooms that have grown over the course of decades in Ehrenfest’s case and literal centuries in case of Dunkelfelger.

        Sigiswald on the other hand does not have a bookroom and thus would need to make one from the ground up, which is something that nobody outside the royal family would be able to afford, or be willing to do either. The other two just happened to be in a more fotunate starting position in this single aspect.

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    How not to bankrupt yogurtland for Rozmyne’s library? Make industrial revolution and make obscene load of cash that even dragons would shudder. Buy all the books. Make libraries.

    The ritual was quite uneventful for Rozmyne standards. Of course Harmut will sings songs on harspiel for years to come.

    Every time Hildebrands name appears on the page new chekovs gun is loaded. Wasn’t Raublut the one to encourage Hildebrand to pursue the Zenthood?

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      I do find the epilogue interesting especially the part where Hilda bread thought Roz requested a overpriced bookroom because she hated Siggy not because she wants more books (more misunderstanding yay).

      Also yeah I think Raublut did encourage him to avoid Arins (I think in part 5 volume 4). I wonder what his hidden agenda is (considering app nobles have a hidden motive).

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      Yeah that one won’t go as she thinks it will.

      For the record she:

      • participated in a highly mana draining ritual
      • kinda forgor to quit soon enough for the blue priests (from this we can assume that the load on the Aubs was sizable as well)
      • seems perfectly fine after
      • just goes ahead and accidentally starts another ritual

      Yeah sure that will totally blow over, no one is going to talk about this later at tea parties.

      I swear if I didn’t know from her perspective that she really doesn’t want to be Zent/Saint I could be fooled to believe she’s playing 4D chess

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        Nah, the load on the aubs was noted as being minimal since they already donate mana. The blue priests aren’t nobles so they’re likely below laynoble levels.

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    Such a good part. Rozemyne does not seem to be all that hyped up to marry Sigiswald, though.

    Hirschur being Hirschur, lol.

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      Rip bookroom. Also how many times more wealthier is Ferdi than royal family I wonder. Considering he has a whole personal library in his (prior) estate.

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        I suspect it’s more a matter of priorities. He didn’t have better things to spend his money on, and also maybe some of them would have been trades given the one-off nature of books. He may have even transcribed some of them himself. Collecting them over a period of years is a different thing than buying several hundred one of a kind items on short notice.

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          I also imagine to him it’s more efficient to buy a book than borrow it whenever he gets a new idea to study. Borrowing books probably seems like wasted time and money to him if he already suspects he’ll read it 5 times minimum

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        At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if by historical standards Ferdinand isn’t even richt but instead everyone else is just almost in poverty. I’m starting to think that magic isn’t the only thing that was forgotten with time

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          Ferdinand also spent a lot of time collecting books in particular because he knew that if Ehrenfest ever ran out of books Rozemyne hadn’t read yet, it would be much more difficult to hold her reins.

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    It seems Lemmy also supports spoiler tags. :)

    EDIT: Edited away since Android app does not support spoiler tags.

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      Be careful with those, the android app at least doesn’t support them. Markdpwn spoilers are coming next update however, those should then work on all platforms

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    I keep finding reasons to like Anastasius, what with how well he understands Rozemyne’s wants and needs. Traurqual seems to have a proper level of respect for the true Zent, which makes me wonder why there is such a large divide between him and the temple. Also I really want him to talk to Rozemyne and see the extent of her book gremlin ways. It was interesting to see that Dietlinde’s retainers were actually trying to restrain her from sending the ordonanz, I didn’t think they had it in them. And then for the epilogue, dear lord I didn’t think Magdalena was that out of touch with Ferdinand’s situation. Also seeing Hildebrand’s perspective makes me laugh at just how screwed he is if he keeps with his current trajectory. And seeing as nobody seems to be trying to guide him away from it, I can’t imagine he’ll change his goals.

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      I get the impression that at least a part of the biblical fundamentalists do not really care what the bible says. They care about using what it says to give themselves more power. Pointing out Trauerqual’s faults and claiming that they can appoint a new zent gives them more power. They want to be seen and heard, Trauerqual not having the Grutrissheit is just a means to that goal.

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      I think her perspective on Ferdinand makes sense if all you know is what’s public. The man doesn’t really have a stellar track record in caring for others so assuming that he couldn’t possibly have raised Rozemyne is understandable. (Admittedly, if it had been anyone but Rozemyne her statement probably would have been entirely true)

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        I also assume Magdalena isn’t particularly inclined to have much sympathy for Ferdinand due to their history even though that was due to meddling by others from Dunkelfelger.

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        I don’t think it makes sense. For starters she expects Ferdinand to do in “half a year” what the entire greater duchy of Ahrensbach failed to do in 16 full years. It’s ludicrous to expect significant changes that quickly to begin with… But in that “half a year”, Detlinde spent about 3 of those 6 months at the Royal Academy, meaning that Ferdinand had a quarter of a year time to educate Detlinde at most.

        On top of that Sylvester very openly and loudly complained about how Ahrensbach is sending Ferdinand all over their duchy for religious ceremonies and how they overwork him in their administration, which means that information should also have reached Magdalena.

        And considering how Letizia is the future wife of her beloved son, I’m pretty sure Magdalena is also keeping eyes and ears on her, surely making her aware that Ferdinand is tutoring the little girl on top of all his other duties in Ahrensbach.

        So even if we look only at the stuff we either know that Magdalena knows, or can reasonably assume she would know, it makes absolutely no sense to me, she would seriously expect Ferdinand to actually succeed here, in such a short time.

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          Great points, Magdalena really should be paying attention, and/or be deeply concerned that her son’s future wife and duchy are being guided by this madman. :-) Interesting that she doesn’t seem to have objected to his appointment there, or apparently felt the need to send another person in. Is Ferdinand really the only person in the whole country who could save Ahrensbach - like there’s not a spare person in one of the other upper duchies to send instead or in addition?

          But on the other hand, it’s not unusual for humans to get stuck on their initial impressions of someone, especially when that impression is overlaid with strong emotion, so it’s not a terrible surprise that she has such harsh thoughts about him.

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          True but Ferdinand is now already somewhat experienced in tutoring, plus Rozemyne keeps nagging him to go appropriately easy on her. It wpuld still come as a shock to see Ferdinand actually manage to raise someone from the perspective of a person only knowing his old personality

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    This might beat out p4v2 for me as my favorite volume to date.

    Seriously, so much is happening so quickly! Compared to p5v4 it feels like we’ve really been laying on the gas.

    Poor Hildebrand, I feel like he’s being led down a really dangerous path. I surely hope that whatever he’s being led into is irrecoverable (but knowing nobel society, it probably will be).