• Polar
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    Lemmy users only want to use foss and not pay a single penny. How dare you suggest they pay a tiny amount to help pay for servers and the creators they’re watching!

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      Some of us are legitimately broke (or on a very limited income). I get that some folk believe it’s the capitalist way to force us to starve or succumb to the elements to demonstrate to others that humans have no value other than their productive worth to some plutocrat.

      Heave ho, thieves and beggars, never shall we die!

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        Ya I know. I’m living pay cheque to pay cheque. If I can’t afford something, I watch ads. It’s simple.

        Why do you expect everything free?

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          Actually I expect some day the benefits that allow me to survive will end and I’ll be another statistic.

          But for now, the United States feels that I’m better off alive, though destitute, and unable to actually afford rent in California.

          In the meantime, the millennials and zoomers I know don’t expect to own anything ever. They eat whatever cheap food they can afford and pay rent and utilities and have a handful of trappings, and people write articles about how they’re not into diamonds or owning real estate, or keeping a savings account. And one by one, they too are slipping through the cracks, usually when they slip down the stairs or get injured at work or catch a cold and don’t have the strength to go into their job when their boss calls them desperate for a filler.

          So regardless of what I expect, our establishment companies don’t want to give anyone anything. They reward hard workers by working them harder.

          I don’t watch ads because they’re antagonistic. I tend to avoid anything that features dark patterns because I’m susceptible to them, and they signal the product has been contaminated by its manufacturers with malicious intent.

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          If I can’t afford something, I watch ads

          I can’t afford to pay 20€ per month–that’s more than my whole monthly phone bill with something like 50 or 100 GB of data. Cost of living is high enough as it is.

          I also lack the most valuable currency there is in one’s life, one that you simply can’t get more of. Time. So I block ads, which cost a lot of time, with extreme prejudice.

          Ads are also bad for my mental health, they just irritate me, rack up stress and easily swing me into bad mood.

          Lastly, I don’t give a fuck about costing money to some multi-billion corporation. I don’t care about them as much as they don’t care about me; the corpos see me just as a resource to exploit as much as possible then move on to another one when there’s nothing more to exploit, and I see the corpos exactly the same way. Call it mutual parasitism. Yes, I’m a parasite. And parasites are the most successful lifeforms on Earth.

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              Oh no, some troll on the internet thinks I’m the one with issues. What will I ever do.

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              People out here being dramatic af.

              Looks like they deleted their comment, but someone was saying watching ads is being “sub human”.

              Like homie there are literal wars going on rn and you think having an ad shown to you is a violation of your human rights. Then they turn around and call other folks privileged. Bruh lol.

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              You regard mental health issues as a character flaw in 2023? All of western civilization deals with intergenerational dysfunction and late stage capitalism. Of course we’re stressed out.

              Usually we only hear derision regarding mental health from the alt-right. Are you an alpha male? Are you a Brexiteer?

              Educate yourself on the harsh conditions of the real world and grow some empathy.

              Otherwise there will be no-one left to stand for you when the Leopards come to eat your face.

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                So when is something bad for your mental health vs “something I don’t like”?

                I’m all for mental health, therapy, etc, but I associate being irritated with ads just being normal. Nobody likes them. Use it as a break to rest your eyes with the 20 20 20 rule. Get some water, use the restroom. Guess what, those things are typically good for your mental health.

                If we recklessly associate being impatient with mental health, you’re diluting the latter and doing nobody a favor.

                If you really have a mental health condition that sends you into mood swings when seeing something as common as an ad, I sure as hell hope you’re getting therapy.

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                FOSS nerds gonna expect everything free.

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                    I agree. I just don’t see how you expect servers to pay for themselves. That’s not how any business works.

                    Google can’t use profits from their Google Photos members to pay for YouTube servers. They aren’t the same department.

                    Just like how Amazon owns Twitch, but Twitch doesn’t just get free server hosting from Amazon.

                    You also can’t use profits from Google Photos to pay the creators that upload to YouTube. Again, not how it works.

                    Google has also reported losses from YouTube year after year, because servers aren’t cheap, and literally everyone can upload as much as they feel like on YouTube. My YouTube channel is FULL of private videos. I probably have a good 1TB uploaded, that are private, meaning Google is storing them for me, but not profiting anything via ads.

                    You expect this free? You’re insane. Lemmy will never survive, because people like you think everything should be free. Lemmy has no ads, and I bet you would cut a nut off before you donate 1 penny to your instance admins.

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      It feels like a culture war between corporations and the OG user base. They reeled us in and monopolized the market with the idea of “free”. Now that competitors are few and far between, they want to change the game and reel in literal billions. I have absolutely no sympathy for their “lost profits”. They are making enough as-is, and I have no problems saying that out loud.