• GaryPonderosa@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    plans to pursue changes” that would let regular users vote moderators out more easily

    I think that’s a good thing in the long run. A lot of reddit moderators are absolutely shit people, and having an actual process to remove them is a good thing.

    It should go without saying fuck u/spez and that his motives here are absolutely malicious in nature, but I do see some small good coming from this.

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        1 year ago

        Then we also don’t know if the action is just temporary to just remedy a problem before IPO or a serious consideration. Rolling it out quickly is moronic too because what about smaller subs & targeted harassment.

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          It might also cause some interesting problems.

          What happens if a sub votes out all the moderators of a sub, before there are any new ones?

          Could they remove Reddit devs from /r/Reddit or /r/Reddit.com? Being admins, they could probably just put themselves back on, but the imagery of them being forced off their own sub is a little funny.

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            I’m sure there would be zero abuse of this functionality to harass pro or publicly out LGBT moderators and remove them from their positions.

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              Lol yeah this is not what happens. If anything, it’s the “pro-LGBT” would be the ones abusing this system to take over subreddit, and it’s impossible to deny at this point. It was funny seeing Bardfinn fail at taking over subreddit in spectacular fashion once as the head mod managed to get his account back before it submitted the request. These mods would even spam CSEM using sock accounts then report the victim subreddit for being unmoderated. Subreddits would go into approved posting mode to defend against this. So no, you’ve pegged the wrong people that’d abuse such a system.

              EDIT: source

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                Oh it certainly can rub both ways. I’ve been publicly out as trans since 2015 and am quite outspoken against the modern LGBT community (and banned from half the spaces at this point anyway). That certain grifters and power hungry individuals have figured out how to game the modern moral system doesn’t mean that there is never any legitimate harassment towards LGBT individuals.

                “Listen and believe” is quite possibly the dumbest thing to become a mainstream argument. As if nobody would ever figure out they can abuse this policy to lie or have ulterior motives or want to air petty drama or want to paint a target on someone for their followers to harass. Minorities are to be treated as God reincarnate and can do and say no wrong. Want to be the shittiest, most toxic person on Earth? Go ahead! Just be sure to say you’re trans so anyone who calls you an asshole is being transphobic. It’s OK to do vile things like spam child porn on a forum you don’t like in an attempt to get it shut down or seized by authorities. The ends justify the means after all!

                I’m well aware of AHS’s bullshit over the years and the many, many, many times they’ve tried to shut down subs I browse.

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            Pretty obvious that these tools only apply to dissenting subs… after this all blows over, there won’t be a single reddit employee even looking at this system

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              They even explicitly stated that!

              If there are mods here who are willing to work towards reopening this community, we are willing to work with you to process a Top Mod Removal request or reorder the mod team to achieve this goal if mods higher up the list are hindering reopening. We would handle this request and any retaliation attempts here in this modmail chain immediately.

              This system is being implemented for the sole purpose of kicking out mods that are keeping subs private. It’s absolutely retaliatory. There’s no chance that they maintain this system as an actual long-term change to reddit’s mod removal policies. It would be too much overhead to staff.