Exxon, Apple and other corporate giants will have to disclose all their emissions under California’s new climate laws – that will have a global impact::California is the world’s fifth-largest economy. Laws tested there often spread across the U.S. and around the world.
Will it have an impact? Exxon says, “our emissions were ___ amount of CO2, ___ amount of methane, [etc.]” Then they say, “by the way, we couldn’t give less of a shit” and go back to business as usual. How does this change anything they do? As the article even says, plenty of them are voluntarily reporting it anyway.
More importantly, what are the requirements for accuracy and what are the penalties for wild guestimations or falsifying data?
If everything else in the US is any indication, Exxon will be like “we emit 2 carbons” and the government will respond with “here’s a fine that’s 1/10th the expense you would incur if you made a legitimate attempt at reporting your emissions”… “and don’t you forget it!!”
Exxon won’t give a shit, but apple probably will. Half of their marketing is greenwashing, so they’ll have to think of something new.
Maybe some people will also understand that corporations aren’t their friends, but with apple users that’s a rather slim chance.
Check this, I worked at Apple on the bar for 3 years and every year we would wear blue for most the year, red for Christmas and get this, green for Earth day.
So they would ship shirts around the world every year for these. You could use your old ones but they always gave more.
I brought it up to a manager that the green one is laughable as we are celebrating earth day by shipping green shirts around. I’m pretty sure they stopped it now but it always struck me as insane.
I also, had some discussions about how well we got treated in the UK but my American counterparts not so much and my Asian counterparts even less, but I always got the we don’t control the Foxconn stuff etc.
It’s all words really and their bottom line is making money.
Apple is already disclosing that information. So is Google. No one seems to give a shit.
Not saying we shouldn’t pressure corporations to do better, but one of the unintended consequences here is that Apple’s green initiatives and disclosures are in part simply a product of tight vertical integration. At a certain point pollution is simply resources not optimally exploited and extracted, and those inefficiencies are lost profits. Meeting environmental goals at that point will be easier for large conglomerates than for smaller players, thus encouraging the rise of more conglomerates.
Just another opportunity for green washing. The Exxon report should just be a letter-headed page saying “yes”.
I assume your username is a Simpson’s reference?
We would then have data that we didn’t have before, which enables legislation. This is how democracy works in this world.
Do you think Exxon reports? Truthfully?
I think Apple reports and Google reports because the article says so. What’s been done about it? Where’s the legislation.
As far as truthfully- what makes you think Exxon will be honest?
It will be closer to the truth than before. I also hope that they actually check the data given, which is normal for taxes for example.
Also I don’t think the emissions of apple, Google and Exxon are even in the same realm, but that’s pure speculation, because Exxon does oil and my expectations are, that that’s dirty.
What? They don’t have to pay taxes on their emissions.
Check it for correctness like they do with taxes. Via inspection or something.
And then what? What makes you think anyone will give a shit, especially politicians that they donate tons of money to?
Then we will know something closer to the truth, Its not like it’s going to solve the problem, but it’s still a step in the right direction imho.
I just hope that this enables NGOs to have reliable numbers to base their campaigns on or something like that. Every bit helps.
It will have an impact on investment. Environmental ratings are already starting to impact how easily companies can acquire funding for growth.
Which is why big oil is lobbying so hard against ESG data now.
This is not a post about technology.
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Please elaborate on the technological advancement that was made here
I’m sorry but this community isn’t just for announcing “technological advancements”. The content here is anything of or relating to technology.
This news is as related to technology as a weather report citing rain in Silicon Valley is relevant to technology. It doesn’t fit the sub.
I agree in relevance, but it’s more “noteworthy” by measure of the poster. If Silicon Valley had a torrential storm that could materially impact these services, it would also belong in the [email protected] community. I suggest you compare how strongly related other posts in this community are to technology, for reference.
The other posts aren’t very related to technology either, and that’s my point. There was a time before Lemmy, when /r/Technology was focused on delivering news about new technology. Not tangentially related news about pro climate laws. Not the politics of social media companies. Not Elon Musk spam. Technology. /r/Science was vastly different in the past as well. In general, these communities had much more substantiative content with nuanced discussions in the comments from experts in relevant fields. Lemmy was a bit like that as well in the past. But unfortunately bots like this one started reposting all of the drivel from Reddit to the main Technology community, drowning out content with more depth. I want communities that I can genuinely learn from. I want to feel hesitant to comment, because everyone in the room is smarter than me. I miss that version of the internet.
I’ve not used or liked Reddit in more than a decade so I can’t empathize. Sowwy!
Nobody is gonna waste their time reading that. Just leave if you don’t enjoy. Very simple.
