I’m a complete novice to mech and ergo so I apologize in advance for any sins lol

The 3 I checked are Kinesis 360 (https://kinesis-ergo.com/keyboards/advantage360/), Glove80 (https://www.moergo.com/collections/glove80-keyboards) and the Moonlander (https://www.zsa.io/moonlander/).

These below are what I got from watching reviews:

  • Kinesis is difficult to customize and sometimes has connectivity issues
  • Glove80 feels cheap
  • Moonlander doesn’t have many keys and thumb cluster is on odd position

Considering the prices, the moonlander is about US$100 cheaper than the others, so feels like a better option.

I am interested in options with keywell, as they feel way more comfortable, but anything will be better since I use an conventional non-split keyboard.

The right menu links to a compare tool but there are so many.

My hands are small, so it may constrain the options I have. Or maybe not.

What are your opinions/suggestions/experience with these types of keyboards?

  • Robyr@beehaw.org
    3·
    2 years ago

    FWIW I love my Kinesis Advantage 360 Pro. I did initially have connectivity problems but it’s been solid since. There’s also a beta 3.0 firmware which I am now running that is much, much more stable. The configuration is the same for any ZMK board, so I didn’t have issues since I have been using ZMK for a while on other boards. It has a learning curve but it’s relatively simple and for basic remapping the GUI works well.

    • lfzsOP
      4·
      2 years ago

      Had you used any non-keywell ergo keyboards before the 360? If so, how much better is the keywell option compared to them?

      The gist of it is “is it worth $200 more to have keywells?”

      • Robyr@beehaw.org
        4·
        2 years ago

        Also, to answer the root question: The keywells and contoured design are 1000000000% worth $200.

      • Robyr@beehaw.org
        3·
        2 years ago

        Nope, but I had several coworkers that swore by Advantage2s. I broke my left arm for the second time in my life last year and one of them implored me to try their extra Advantage2 so they lent me one, and I haven’t had wrist or shoulder pain since. I bought my 360 before I could even touch type on that borrowed Advantage2.

        • lfzsOP
          4·
          2 years ago

          Thanks for that. It makes me less resistant in spending more to have keyboard with keywell.

          I hope your arm is fully recovered now!

          • Robyr@beehaw.org
            3·
            2 years ago

            It’s never going to be the same, unfortunately. I do wish I had started caring about my ergonomics before I got hurt again though. I was a huge fool to think that a “good looking” keyboard was more important than a keyboard that was built for human usage for so many years.

            Also, don’t skateboard folks. At 15 I got some sick permanent titanium parts from the first broken arm, and then at 37 I broke the same arm doing the same crap and it sucked. 6+ months later and it still hurts and I will never regain the same range of motion.