One of the things that has been frustrating me most deeply when trying to move to Lemmy, especially as the exodus from Reddit really picks up steam, is finding new communities as they set up shop. Most of them appear to be landing on lemmy.ml, which has adopted more of an open-door policy for community creation. That’s fine, I’m not asking lemmy.one to necessarily do the same. I picked this instance to take some pressure off the really big ones.

But the process is maddening.

  • I search for (e.g.) the string “no man” in my lemmy.one Communities page under “All”. No results.
  • Someone mentions a cross-federation search at lemme.de. Why isn’t this everywhere?
  • I search there for “no man” and two communities pop, one at lemme.ml and one at lemmy.world. There are no subscribe links.
  • The lemmy.ml one looks popular, so I copy the full URL and put it in my lemmy.one search. No results, and no “no results” message.
  • OK, so I visit https://lemmy.ml/c/nomanssky directly and click “Sidebar”. Nothing happens. There appears to be a Javascript error preventing anything from working (including the hamburger menu). Is this because I’m a lemmy.one user?
  • Start from lemmy.ml, and search their Communities for “no man”, find the community, click through, click Sidebar. I get a magic string, !nomanssky@lemmy.ml.
  • Back on lemmy.one, search for !nomanssky@lemmy.ml. NO RESULTS.

I feel like I’m taking crazy pills! What is going on here?? Is lemmy.one blocking these instances? Can’t be, I see lemmy.ml stuff all over. Starting to wonder if I just made the wrong choice and should go join the cool kids on a “big” instance.

  • erik@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    If you know the name of the community, I found success going through the address bar in your browswer, as opposed to search.

    For example: lemmy.one/c/[email protected]

      • CmdrShepard@lemmy.one
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        1 year ago

        In the lemmy.one search, try putting your search in the format of [email protected] and you should be able to find them. Essentiallyust separate the community name and the domain with the @ and have the ! at the beginning. This should work but you may need to give the search 10-15 seconds of additional time to find the community. I noticed that it would give me “No Results” but then the community would pop up a few seconds later. After this click on the community > sidebar > subscribe

        • Bricriu@lemmy.oneOP
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          1 year ago

          So I also tried that, step 7, and I still don’t get any results, days later.

          • CmdrShepard@lemmy.one
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            1 year ago

            I must have missed that in your OP. It could be server issues due to the increased traffic but other than that I dunno since I’m new here myself.

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    1 year ago

    You’re not alone. I find the intra-Lemmy-instance searching to be… “sticky”. sometimes it works as advertised and sometimes it doesn’t. As I also just joined Lemmy, I can’t say if this is a recent thing or its always been like this.

    I would probably chalk the current issues with the massive influx of Redxiles just absolutely hammering lemmy.ml and the few largest instances. Keep at it, I find if you bash at your instance’s search page enough eventually it might connect.

    In the meantime, I compiled a bruteforce list of communities from the dozen or so largest Lemmy instances, and created [email protected] and [email protected]. See the Community listing here: https://lemmy.ca/post/612259

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    1 year ago

    Can confirm, I can’t find a large amount of communities from lemmy.world nor read the already existing comments inside their threads if I enter them manually.

  • Bricriu@lemmy.oneOP
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    1 year ago

    Further weirdness: It still doesn’t resolve by URL for me on lemmy.one, but now that @[email protected] was able to find it, I can get results back with the string “no man” – but both are listed as having zero subscribers??

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        Yeah. The subscriber count it shows is the number of subscribers on your local instance, in this case lemmy.one (which would of course be 0 since it was just discovered)

        The only way to see the true subscriber count at the moment is by looking on the instance where the community is hosted.

        • Bricriu@lemmy.oneOP
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          Ah, thanks for the info. That’s not a great user experience, but at least it makes sense.

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          1 year ago

          ¯_(ツ)_/¯

          Btw I just though about this. Do you have any extensions installed, which could cause this problem? A JS Blocker perhaps?

          • Bricriu@lemmy.oneOP
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            Nope, no JS blocker on my phone, and I even disabled the “Block This!” adblock VPN I usually have running to test it out. Desktop is a pretty vanilla FF install – and to see the same behavior (URL search failing) on both implies it’s a problem with lemmy.one or my account overall rather than the browser.

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    1 year ago

    I’m not facing these problems. If I search nomanssky on this instance, the one you’re looking for comes up right away.

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    Maybe your instance is not aware of the community, which you are looking for. Try copying the direct link to the community in question into the search of your local instance and try searching.

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      I did that – it’s the 4th or 6th step I noted in the post. Full URL into search = nothing, not even a “no results” message.

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          That is bizarre. I’m trying from my phone, both normal and Desktop Mode, but maybe I’ll try from an actual computer.

  • Bricriu@lemmy.oneOP
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    Ok, so having gone through all of that, and subscribed to the lemmy.ml community, I tried posting and… not so good, Al.

    Again, I wonder how much of this is my particular instance. > UI: v0.17.3