• PieMePlenty@lemmy.world
    1·
    34 minutes ago

    Realistically, I don’t think anyone would come after you anyway. It is de facto legal. I’d say in the name of pragmatism, we don’t really need a legal framework around it.

  • MithranArkanere@lemmy.world
    23·
    12 hours ago

    It’s conservation. Archeology is digging up what was once lost.
    So finding a lost video game is archeology. Keeping it safe is conservation.
    Ensuring games can’t be lost in the first place and that they continue to work in the future is preservation.

    All needed, but different things.

    • TheEmpireStrikesDak@thelemmy.club
      3·
      2 hours ago

      My hot take is all abandonware media should legally become file-share friendly after a certain amount of time being out of print, say 15 or 20 years. The original rights holder still maintains copyright, but if they are no longer publishing that work, and therefore no longer making sales, anyone can fileshare it for free in its original form. If the owner then republishes it, it stops being file share friendly. But there have to be caveats, like Nintendo can’t publish 2 copies of an old game every 15 years for like $500 a copy and say it’s still published. It has to be sold at a reasonable price.

      • DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world
        3·
        1 hour ago

        I mean, copyright was supposed to be limited to 20 years, same as patents. I don’t think we would need anything else if we went back to that. There is no reason for copyright to last about a century like it does now.

        • Poojabber@lemmy.world
          1·
          4 minutes ago

          Then how would Disney make money if they didnt continue being able to sell 70 year old movies at full price??? Stop being such a greedy asshole Dreamlsnd!!! Disney needs to make a reasonable income, and public domain was always a silly idea.

      • TheseusNow@lemmy.zip
        5·
        13 hours ago

        Came here to say this. Me and my wife were playing games from DOS and win95/98 days thanks to the internet archive recently. It really felt like digging up memories.

    • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
      5·
      16 hours ago

      In a way a lot of us end up becoming amateur librarians. When the big megaservers get hit with something nasty, or they decide to purge it all for AI datasets or something. (Idk it’s a stupid timeline anything is possible lol)

      I like to think our fellow amateur archivists who started collecting such things for personal reasons will be a force for preserving meaningful artifacts of human experience.

  • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
    82·
    21 hours ago

    Also, ripping your local libraries dvd collection for personal use is called archiving and depending where you live completely legal.

    • wurstgulasch3000@feddit.org
      17·
      20 hours ago

      Where I live the library card costs 5-10 € per year and they carry blu rays, video games and e books. Needless to say I’ve now renewed this card for the 15th year in a row

    • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
      5·
      16 hours ago

      Yeah that “depending” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there lol.

      Also big depending: At least try not to make it TOO obvious that’s what you’re doing. Most library people are cool, (Source: know library people) but it’s kinda obvious when we see someone racking up the hold shelf with like 30-40 DVDs and CDs a week. LMAO

      Unfortunately the mega media interests do occasionally try to pressure libraries to enforce copyright violations or whatever. (Like telling you you can’t photocopy textbook pages or something)

      I personally try to just archive things I own, primarily, or things that are special and important to me, but that’s also because I have maybe 4TB to work with and hardware is insane again.

      But there’s a point when it starts to look like compulsory hoarding lol. It’s kinda an open secret/ gray area, and a few people being stupid will likely catch attention. (Look what happened to archive.org fending off broadsides from the publishing industry.)

      • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
        3·
        15 hours ago

        I know its not everywhere but where i live its 100% legal and protected under fair use as long as i don’t distribute outside my household.

  • Sonicdemon86@lemmy.worldEnglish
    25·
    18 hours ago

    Most here are just talking about one form of media, why not include video games like “Black and White” made by Lion Head Studios and not sold anywhere, but can only be found on archive sites for dead games. Edit: if you want to find these abandon games the site that I use is My Abandonware

    • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusEnglish
      14·
      18 hours ago

      Or the absolutely legendary “No one lives Forever” that is stuck in a Limbo of Legality - iirc it’s not clear who has the rights to distribute the game, so it isn’t.

    • The Picard Maneuver@piefed.worldOPEnglish
      7·
      18 hours ago

      I do think I’m going to start a retro game ROM collection in general. I have a sizable physical collection already, but there are just so many that aren’t easily available anymore.

      • village604@adultswim.fanEnglish
        5·
        15 hours ago

        For the early consoles you can torrent rom packs containing everything released for the platform. It’s not a big download until you start getting to the N64/PSX timeframe.

  • tomiant@piefed.socialEnglish
    3·
    13 hours ago

    For sure, and all of that shit I saved on harddrives for decades, well, I am sorry that I finally had a rational thought and figured why should I keep that shit around when you can find everything online nowadays anyway. Because you can’t, and I gave in to my stupid brain being reasonable. Last time that happens, let me assure you.

    • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      12 hours ago

      Sorry to tell you this, but that wasn’t a rational thought (unless this was in the teens/aughts). I bailed on netflix 8-10 years ago cuz I got sick of having whatever I wanted to watch disappear before I had a chance to watch it. And I’m not paying 100/mo for all the streaming services is need to watch what I want to watch, so archival it was. And it was good.

  • Pacrat173@lemmy.ml
    20·
    21 hours ago

    I finally got around to hosting a JellyFinn server and there’s a number of useful programs you can use to get your movies off DVD and Blu ray. MakeMKV and HandBrake my beloved programs

    • The Picard Maneuver@piefed.worldOPEnglish
      7·
      20 hours ago

      I’ve been using Handbrake to rip DVDs but haven’t started using MakeMKV yet. I do have a number of blu-rays that Handbrake can’t seem to process on its own.

      • paultimate14@lemmy.world
        6·
        17 hours ago

        I can vouch for MakeMKV as well.

        I had so much frustration trying to rip Blu-Rays other ways. Did the free trial and got my whole library ripped pretty cleanly and easily. Eventually decided to buy the software so I wouldn’t have to keep looking up and entering the trial key. There’s not much higher of a commendation I can give than to say that I decided to give them $60 I didn’t have to because it was good.