I’m torn between the abilities of druids, clerics, and rangers. So I’m wracking my brain trying to figure out how to get all three in one and I k ow it’s probably impossible so-

• Would a 3/9 Circle of Land/Hunter do well?

I’d love to be relatively powerful with a bow and not completely tied down by spells, but I love the support role and moonbeam is virtually impossible to give up. Plus, the rp is good on this. Or…

• Would a 3/9 Circle of Land/Life Cleric do well?

It would suck to give up the bow, but in the event that the above build doesn’t work, is this a decent idea to fall back on? Seems a lot of utility, rp is solid still. Or…

Would a 3/9 Life Cleric/Ranger do well?

It keeps the Wisdom synergy like the aforementioned, allows for some pew pew, and also has some utility (bless, etc) or…

Would a 3/9 Circle of Land/Monk do well?

Basically, I’d like to keep three levels of Druid for moonbeam and the utility, but also have some sort of melee or ranged damage.

Without knowing the the ins-and-outs of the tabletop version, and trying to avoid pitfalls of bad ideas and such…. What advice would you give on these ideas?

(Disclaimer: Not interest in other classes at all right now, it’s just these: so no other dips- also, not into spores or light cleric either. Looking specifically to see how these would work out)

Thanks!

  • pyrflie@lemm.eeEnglish
    4·
    9 months ago

    Go Land/Life with an Elf. You get 80% of what the Ranger lvls would have given you without impacting your spell progression. You just miss Archery FS and Horde Breaker.

    If you really want all three for some roleplay reason Land 9/Ranger 2/Life 1 is probably your best bet as you only endup missing out on Horde Breaker and Channel Divinity.

    • PrataiOPEnglish
      2·
      9 months ago

      Wouldn’t ranger 2 be fairly weak with a bow though? I thought more levels in ranger ups the dos with a bow.

      • pyrflie@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        9 months ago

        Unless you plan to invest in Sharpshooter and go for Extra Attack from Ranger 5 the bow isn’t going to matter much mid to late game. Recast Call Lightning and even Thorn Whip/Conjure Flame will outpace Horde Breaker.

        • PrataiOPEnglish
          21·
          9 months ago

          Kinda seems pointless to use a bow in this game then to be honest. Seems it’s outclassed by anything

          • pyrflie@lemm.eeEnglish
            3·
            9 months ago

            Bow builds are some of the strongest in the game but require heavy investment; typically 5-7 lvls in a Martial or Gish class, Sharpshooter, and a Dex ASI to 18.

            • PrataiOPEnglish
              21·
              9 months ago

              So that’s what I was originally thinking, which was why I suggested 9/3 Hunter/Druid. This would work?

              • pyrflie@lemm.eeEnglish
                2·
                9 months ago

                OHHH. You want to go 9 Hunter.

                You would probably be better off with an 11/1 split or even just 12 Ranger. Volley is the signature Hunter ability and it’s going to be a lot stronger than Moonbeam, especially if you combine it with Sharpshooter and Tippler’s Rage.

                • PrataiOPEnglish
                  21·
                  9 months ago

                  Yeah, I’d rather not give up my druid utility. I like the find familiar and bow abilities of Hunter, but also the moveable AoE Moonbeam, shillelagh, heals and cantrips of Druid.

                  Basically, I’d like to run a Druid that does good bow damage.

                  • pyrflie@lemm.eeEnglish
                    3·
                    9 months ago

                    So lvl 6-10 are the weakest that Ranger get. Going by that build logic Ranger 5/Druid 7 would be a better split since it would at least net 4th lvl Druid spells. The Dryad summon is pretty darn good even if you will miss out on the Elementals. You will also want to get the Hag’s Hair it’s the only way you make 18 Dex/Wis and pick up Sharpshooter.

    • PrataiOPEnglish
      21·
      9 months ago

      Quick additional question:

      Does the Moonbeam spell scale it’s damage using caster level, or Druid level? Meaning: if I only go 3 levels in Druid, will it continually level up, or does it stay at the level three version.

      • pyrflie@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        9 months ago

        It scales by spell slot used to cast. With your lvl split (Hunter 9/Druid 3) it would get you up to a 5th lvl slot or 5d10(27.5 avg per proc).