• darq@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    … what are you even on about?

    They don’t expect a change in this case. You’re trying really hard to stretch those words into something entirely different.

    edit: If anyone actually got this far, I think this thread was raided by conservatives pretending to be liberals.

    C’mon now. Be serious.

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      10 months ago

      I can’t find any other explanation for the sheer amount of trolliness I’m receiving. A bunch of people elsewhere are trying to pretend I’m defending Murdoch somehow.

      What the person I was replying to said, was a hopeless perspective that you consistently hear. It does nothing but de-motivate people. They could have said “Fox” will not change. But I’m real sick of hearing that things will not change when they very, very clearly will. Will Fox improve in the short-term? No, of course not. Will Fox News eventually change? It would be impossible not to.

      Saying “things will not change”, under virtually any circumstances, is objectively false, actively harmful and completely pointless. My apologies for hating it, but I won’t back down from this position.

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        10 months ago

        I can’t find any other explanation for the sheer amount of trolliness I’m receiving.

        Have you tried looking inward?

        Hell you don’t even have to look inwards. I told you right here in this thread why people are taking issue with you. It was actually meant to be constructive. But you dismissed it as “feelings”.

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          10 months ago

          I didn’t really see anything constructive or that I could use in it. I can’t control how other people see me, and I can’t predict how my words will be received. All I know is those four words were wrong. At every level. So I called it out, and I said why I felt that way.

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            10 months ago

            I can’t control how other people see me, and I can’t predict how my words will be received.

            Predicting how your words will be received by an audience is a core skill in communication, and one that can be practiced.

            Constructive enough for you?

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              10 months ago

              This is the internet, mistakes in communication are extremely frequent due to nonverbal cues all being missing. I can tell you with certainty that I was expecting that to be fairly controversial, but also to be overall upvoted as opposed to down-voted. I’m actually pretty fucking disappointed people aren’t understanding what I’m trying to say, because it’s pretty important. Hence why I suspect a raid.

              Folks around here are usually more willing to engage with nuance and a calm, polite analysis of the specifics of something.

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                10 months ago

                Nobody has raided anything. Your comments have consistently accused others of holding extreme positions, when they simply haven’t. You are arguing with positions that don’t exist. And when that has been pointed out to you, you have doubled down on your misinterpretation. All while stroking your ego about how intelligent you think you are.

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                  10 months ago

                  It’s a little sad that you think only “intelligent” people can want a rational conversation. What if I was just autistic and took words really literally? Should I just stfu or something?

                  Either we got raided, or our demographics shifted rapidly in the shitpost direction in the past short while or something.

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                    10 months ago

                    It’s a little sad that you think only “intelligent” people can want a rational conversation.

                    I haven’t said anything of the sort.

                    What if I was just autistic and took words really literally?

                    Then my blunt feedback to you likely would have been more easily received.

                    Either we got raided, or our demographics shifted rapidly in the shitpost direction in the past short while or something.

                    You really are incapable of accepting that you’re the one at fault here, huh?