• ellabee@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    we need both. because, at least in the US, money speaks really loudly about what laws we get, and can drown out the voices of the majority. so we need to put pressure on both our legislators and the people with money - generally, the employers/corporations- to fund, support, and pass regulations. which will only work until the unscrupulous assholes find loopholes, but that’s how it goes.

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      9 months ago

      So if better labor laws is the goal, and unions are the vehicle, then better labor laws fixes this… I’m not anti union, I’m pro workers rights. All workers. I know its a pipe dream that will never happen, but I stand by my comment. If these workers didn’t need to pay dues and strike to get fair compensation due to it being required by law, it would be an improvement.

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          9 months ago

          Nothing. 7.25/hr with no sick/vacation time or insurance/retirement of any kind isn’t exactly winning

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            9 months ago

            Pray tell, when did the big old dick of American legislature start to turn against unions? Oh about the time 7.25 was legislated to be the minimum wage.

            Read. Educate yourself.

            You believe the propaganda that they feed you. Stop being ignorant.

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              9 months ago

              Wanting better rights for workers is me being fed propaganda…

              What is it when you do it?

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                9 months ago

                You’re not fucking listening dude. I tried being nice and explaining it to you but you just double down on “wE NeEd MoRe LaBouR lAwS” as if that isn’t fucking obvious.

                That will never happen without unions. Whether or not you want to admit it, you NEED unions.

                If you can’t accept that then fuck off and don’t bother responding anymore.

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                  9 months ago

                  So you agree! Thank you, it is obvious we need better labor laws. I thought we were going to continue to butt heads for a little bit. Glad you came around. See, I’m listening.