A growing number of Canadians, including several young children, have been arrested or detained by U.S. immigration authorities over the past two years, according to newly released government data obtained through a U.S. federal court case.
  • ShadowAEnglish
    510·
    22 days ago

    Not that I would go or encourage people to go, but kinda making a mountain out of a molehill here:

    The data show that more than 200 Canadians have spent time in ICE custody at some point since January, compared with 137 detained in 2024.

    200 people. There were 39 million trips to the US in 2024

    • stoy@lemmy.zipEnglish
      112·
      22 days ago

      You can’t mix and match time periods for different types of data and compare them straight on.

      Your data about Canadians being detained is from 2025.

      Your data about Canadian trips to the US is from 2024.

      These data points are not relevant.

      You need to compare the detained rate from 2024 with the detained rate of 2025, and you can only do that once you have the full data.

      • ShadowAEnglish
        48·
        22 days ago

        When talking orders of magnitude in size, it’s not an unreasonable comparison. The number of Canadians detained is peanuts compared to the number actively down there.

        • stoy@lemmy.zipEnglish
          92·
          22 days ago

          We don’t know that until we know how many have actually crossed the border in 2025.

          There have been constant reports of massive reductions in tourism in the US, it is not unreasonable to expect that Canadian tourism have reduced by a lot, meaning that it will affect the detained rate by quite a lot.

          • nfh@lemmy.worldEnglish
            71·
            22 days ago

            If travel dropped by an order of magnitude, and 3.9 million Canadians traveled to the USA, that’s 200 people in 3,900,000, a bit less than 1 in 19,000. On a national scale that’s obviously a concerning number, but on an individual scale, I’m not sure personal exposure to that risk will change all that many people’s decisions. Those who it does change likely perceive themselves at higher risk than the average Canadian.

            That’s assuming it’s a good estimate, but I suspect from numbers I’ve seen on flight traffic drops, this is an overestimate; likely more Canadians traveled to the USA, and so the individual risk is even lower.